The gay wedding cake.

If we allow that, there soon may be no "somewhere else" to go to. That was the experience of blacks before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the McClung case. BTW, I wouldn't try that "Christians only" eating establishment. Religious discrimination is definitely prohibited, as it should be. Sounds like a case of Archie Bunker to me.

Defenders of Jim Crow said in fifties, "You can't legislate morality." No we can't, but we can legislate conduct, and that's how we've made progress in advancing the rights of minorities your attitude would leave out in the cold. if you don't feel like you want to bake for a marriage you don't believe in, that's your right. But if you put it into practice by discriminating against gays, "fuck you for being in business." Otherwise, we'll have religious objections to women in hijabs, women without hijabs, etc., and be back to the fifties. If you want to go there, get a time machine.

 

Or Chick-Fil-A? I'm pretty sure the blacks have created many a fine restaurants since the 60s. Thanks to these laws.

And if you think we live in a place that forces everyone to treat everyone the same way, you better start purging your nation of everyone that doesn't feel like you do.

People act differently, believe differently, conduct themselves differently. Force me to absorb them and I will resist in any way I can. Live like you like, let me live like I like. Allow us to live and work and get services to our liking, i wiil do the same in return, then we can get along. But if you want to come by my resturant because you like the food, then I expect you to live by the rules that the establishment is based on and provides that level of quality to.

They didn't get there based on how you feel, they got there because of the way they felt.

And they did a poor job at passing laws that at preventing people from conducting themselves poorly.

 

It’s not just the Middle East though. But I get what you’re saying.

With that said, if I saw a sign that said “we don’t serve ____” and they still provide service to people like me. I still wouldn’t support them at all. The free market will decide the fate of that business.

 

YEP!!!!!

 

Which is how it should work.

But, alas, when faced with a 40% loss of business, people will bail them out through Go Fund Me, which is--as I see it--voluntary socialism. Can't survive the free market, rely on handouts.

Click here to support Masterpiece Cakeshop organized by allie stuckey

 

What they really mean is "my own christian mythology is more important than anyone else period." If the same person doesn't support the same "religious freedom” for non-christian religions then they're hiding behind their own weak justifications to avoid recognizing their own bigotry

 

Do you have issue with GoFundMe efforts that supports Gays causes?

The people that believe in his views are allowed to put their money where their views are.

It was theiberals on this board that taught me to use your dollars to back what you do and don't believe in.

That cuts both ways.

 

This isn't 1961 anymore. Again there are many blacks that have opened fine eateries

 

I’ve heard from two white males on this thread that discrimination is not an issue anymore. And who has a better pulse on being discriminated against than Christian straight white males.

 

You might want to go read what a "public" establishment is.

 

No, no no and no.

I think I answered them all.

 

That is abundantly evident.

 

This isn't a "cause."

But since you asked, if a gay bakery was struggling to stay in business because of the backlash that comes with refusing heterosexual customers, I would absolutely not support it.

 

Irrelevant. Once we start backsliding, who knows how far we'll go.

Not everyone. Just those in business serving the public.

Fine, but if your rules include not serving me because you don't like my color, creed or sexual orientation, I'll sue your ass.

 

The "free market" didn't settle it in the fifties. If a majority of the people are fine with segregation, the "free market" won't change a thing. Gays haven't advanced because of the "free market"; they advanced because of the courts. The whole idea of civil rights and liberties is that you have them regardless of what the majority thinks. BTW. The "free market" is a myth.