2012? Some questions...

2012....Hmmm. There is a seed of doubt in me.

If I do not transcend into the 4th dimensional shift will I remain with the others in 3rd dimension? Will my doubt keep my existence from evovling, or do we all go?

Hmm hmm hmm.


If anyone would like to also give me some good information, I would appreciate it!

Blessings of LOVE

 

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http://www.2012.com.au/fourth_dim.html

http://www.floweroflife.org/dinterviews.htm

Namaste *~

 

I don't believe there will be a planular shift on any specified date. Possibly after death, possibly on some unconcious level, but not in 2012.

[We] Chaotes don't seem to believe THAT crazy of shit. Heh heh..

 

If anything happens, Im looking forward to it, whatever it might be...

 

Can I just ask. WHY of all dates January 2012?

I reckon something like that will happen but only once we have all become enlightened, there are a lot of knots to untangle before this can happen so why 2012?

Blessings

Sebbi

 

I feel it heightening, quickening, and the shifts are already occuring, if you can tune into it... I think in its wake, depending on where we are within ourselves, is where we'll end up... very much so.. I dont think theyrell be a group who goes to the fourth dimension and one who goes to the third... its all so much more subtle than that.. and if you can really tune in, to the earth, within ones silence, and observe all that is.. you will perceive the subtleties

 

Thank you. I feeling alot of things as well. I do think that anything can happen, and that 2012 is enough time for a change....


Peace

 

these changes are taking place now, the process is a long one.

 

The funny thing is, after 2012 comes and goes and the apocalypse doesn't happen, the doomsayers will simply change the date.

Every doomsayer in history has been wrong, and there's no reason to assume that the ones from THIS decade are any different.

 

is this that myan calander thing?

 

Hilary and Obama in 2012!

 

most of us dont believe 2012 is going to be the apocalypse...its not the end of the world, its teh end of an age.
the world is always changing, only now at a more rapid rate than ever. what with all teh information out there and communication being easier now than ever before. the earth is changing and our collective conciouseness is evolving.

 

2012 was important to the Mayans, and it is an astrological / astronomical configuration - but they happen all the time. Why put stock in what the Mayans thought? They didn't even predict the end of their own civilisation thru drought!

I do believe consciousness is heightening, but when people pick out specific dates - even specific days!!!! - 21 December 2012 - I think they are getting themselves into a major psychological drama for nothing. That kind of thing has been going on since before the very first Christians thought the Apocalypse would happen in their lifetimes!

Akasha

 

^^Best advice I've seen in this post. Just dig life and promote peace, love, compassion and good vibes. Our planet is in for some tough times, but there is a golden age to come. Maybe some of us will be lucky enough to see it. If not, at least we can help bring it about. BE POSITIVE!

Love and light,

Pete

 

In 1866 James Grant who believed the prophecies of the Bible stated: The personal coming of Christ, to establish His millennial reign on earth, will not take place until the Jews are restored to their own land, and the enemies of Christ and the Jews have gathered together their armies from all parts of the world, and have commenced the siege of Jerusalem...now the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the mustering and marshalling of these mighty armies, with a view to capturing Jerusalem, must require a considerable time yet. (This was written eighty-two years before Israel was made a nation.)
Those who follow the scriptures will know the future. The Bible does not give dates, but it does speak of what will be. And what will be, we are seeing before are very eyes, just as James Grant stated. Based on the Bible, Grant knew the Jews would be back in Israel, and he knew they would control Jerusalem. Sorry Kandahar, not everyone is wrong, and the Bible is always right.

 

forget about the specific date 12/12/2012...if the mayans calculations were off even a couple of second....a fraction of a second, it would throw the date off months or even years. also, its not all going to magically go down in a single day. the proccess takes years and has already been going on for a few.

 

And what part of this statement comes into contact with any kind of logic? Is it the same kind of logic that the Christians have twisted into defending their bible stories and fairy tales with nonsensical rhetoric, in hopes of surpressing scientific logic which is gradually taking away the so-called truth and credibility from their life's devotion? Do you actually believe that an "insect-alien" encountered in Terence McKenna's DMT-induced fantasies had indeed told the truth about some obscure formula for the apocalypse in 2012, or are you simply in submission to ignorance? You don't have to be afraid to admit that you are unenlightened. It is already quite obvious that most of the world is unenlightened.
I am not here to criticize you, or anyone else. I speak compassionately, not scornfully. But what I am wondering is why you and others like you desire subconciously to believe in these childish apocalyptic tales? Do you feel the need to anticipate the coming of the end? Are you so afraid of death that you are trying to fool yourself otherwise? Or are you afraid of facing death alone?
It is in the same kind of question that one asks a person of faith why they believe. To earn and honest answer to a question like this is often difficult to find when you are proposing it to someone who cannot even be honest to themselves. Thus, I do not expect an honest answer. But in this, comes the stride for my objective - to inspire honesty.

Now I feel as if I must wash my hands.

 

This decade? that was calculated and then recorded unknown thousands of years ago, and not changed once. Don't assume anything, we could be a food crop, and we're almost ready for harvest. The sun could fart at us and we'll all be crispy critters, or people could have a shift in consciousness......
I doubt it will be an end, dont even understand the concept.
I hope I live through the event........

 

"not everyone is wrong, and the Bible is always right."

This must be coming from the fundamentalist American mid-West, if you meant what you wrote literally?

The Bible is a fascinating collection of many books, also full of scores of contradictions (hence not 'always right' on that count), but Biblical scholars basically all accept that much of it is myth, allegory, and facts merged with fiction added for political reasons.

 

When you talk about the myths of the Bible, are you talking about the 300 prophecies of the Old Testament that Jesus fulfilled in the New Testament. Are you talking about such men as Dr. John Cumming in 1864, or James Grant in 1866, who stated that based on Bible prophecies Christ will not return to earth until the Jews first return to Israel, and also control Jerusalem. Are you talking about the prophecies in the Bible that states that Jerusalem's East Gate will be sealed, and no one will be able to open it until Christ returns. The East Gate remains sealed to this very day, even though twice the Moslems tried to break through the Gate, and destroy the prophecy. They failed. Just like the Bible said they would. Yes, I am a Fundamentalist Christian, and the God you don't know I have heard His audible voice. I have had encounters with demons from hell, I have seen the Anti Christ to come. I have walked the approches of heaven. Jesus is not dead. He is alive.