Rabbi Circumcises Infants By Mouth, 3 Get Herpes, 1 Dies

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  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    http://www.nydailynews.com/front/v-pfriendly/story/277069p-237314c.html

    New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com
    Fear rabbi gave tots herpes
    By MAGGIE HABERMAN
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
    Wednesday, February 2nd, 2005

    City health officials are investigating whether a baby boy died after contracting herpes from the rabbi who circumcised him, the Daily News has learned.

    The probe was launched after city officials realized that three infants in the city who tested positive for herpes last year all were circumcised by Rabbi Yitzchok Fischer. The Rockland County-based Fischer is a prominent mohel - someone who performs religious circumcisions.

    Under Jewish law, a mohel is supposed to draw blood from the circumcision wound to remove impurities. While many mohels do it by hand, Fischer uses a practice little known outside ultra-Orthodox communities called metzizah bi peh, in which the mohel uses his mouth.

    On Oct. 16, 2004, Fischer performed a bris, or religious circumcision, on twins. Ten days later, one infant died of herpes, and the other tested positive for the virus, according to papers filed in Manhattan Supreme Court by city lawyers.

    A few weeks later, city Health Department officials found a third baby, on Staten Island, who also tested positive for herpes after being circumcised by Fischer in late 2003, the papers say.

    Herpes is far more dangerous to infants than adults because of babies' fragile immune systems. The health status of the two surviving boys was not clear yesterday.

    The city "is concerned that the possible transmission of herpes simplex virus type 1 in infants may be continuing as a result of defendant's practice of metzizah bi peh," city lawyers wrote in the complaint, dated Dec. 22. "Defendant's conduct to date constitutes a threat to the public health."

    The custom of metzizah is thousands of years old. But experts said that these days, many mohels breathe in through a sterile tube to draw the blood instead of using their mouths directly on the wound, although in some ultra-Orthodox sects, the oral practice is mandatory.

    The city asked Fischer to submit to a blood test in November, and ordered him to stop performing metzizah by mouth while waiting for the results, court papers show. Officials told him to use a sterile tube and gloves in the meantime.

    But the Health Department got a report that Fischer wasn't following the order, so the city filed the legal complaint to compel him do so.

    Fischer, 66, declined to comment yesterday.

    His lawyer, Mark Kurzmann, wouldn't say whether Fischer has done the blood test, citing medical confidentiality. But he said Fischer is "cooperating with the city's investigation to resolve this matter."

    "My client is known internationally as a caring, skilled and conscientious mohel," Kurzmann said.

    He suggested the babies could have contracted herpes elsewhere. He also said there are concerns about the government regulating religious practices.

    City lawyers declined to comment.

    Health officials, aware of the sensitivity of the issue, have been talking extensively to community leaders.

    "There's been a constructive dialogue between the community and the Department of Health, and we're working with [them] to ensure the safety of all our city's children," said Arie Lipnic, spokesman for City Councilman Simcha Felder (D-Brooklyn).
     
  2. yummy

    yummy Banned

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    okay the "metzizah bi peh"..........now thats just weird
     
  3. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    his lawyer is jewish.
     
  4. crystalstarr

    crystalstarr Word

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    im sorry but thats gross. i dont care if its the "jewish law" it is gross. times are changing they need to change the really odd ,sick practices.
     
  5. Revenant Phantasm

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    Yes.. very very.. sick...
     
  6. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    How can he put his MOUTH on a baby's penis and NOBODY says anything???!!!
     
  7. yummy

    yummy Banned

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    ..................tradition .................duh:rolleyes:
     
  8. FallenFairy

    FallenFairy Senior Member

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    Im sorry not to be racial or anything but THAT FUCKING JEW RABBI CAN GO TO HELL
     
  9. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Anyone wanna guess how long until the ADL or other Jewish groups start attacking anyone who condemns this practice as "anti-Semitic"?

    WTF is up with this practice? Mutilating the kid's penis isn't enough, so the Rabbi has to give him some kind of "ritual blowjob"?
     
  10. Super_Grrl

    Super_Grrl Crazy love

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    Dude...bad enough to put your mouth on a baby's penis in this society, but to do if knowing you can give them a disease?? That's just wrong.
     
  11. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    well, the way i see it, for the rabbi's practicing it, i bet for the most part it's like sucking the venom out of a snake bite in a very akward spot.
     

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