New To Savia Plz Help!

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by Slug420, Feb 4, 2005.

  1. Slug420

    Slug420 Member

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    hey everyone im kinda new to Salvia i only tried it once 6x it got me a lil light headed and a mild buzz nuttin extreme like i read about but in guessing cause its only 6x so im deffently going higher

    so my question is whats the differance between non standarized and standardized salvia cause money is deffently an issue with me

    theres a site i plain on buying from that has 1 gram of non standardized salvia 20x for $19 and the same site has 1 gram on standardized salvia 10 for the same price $19

    so what do yall suggest i get the non stand 20x or the stand 10x ? (i deffently want the one the would be stronger}


    thanks to anyone that can help me out
     
  2. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Well first off, you're not getting powerful effects because you aren't smoking it right. Look on these forums, you'll find the proper smoking technique. If you smoke it like you would smoke cannabis, then you're only getting in like 1/10th of what you should be. And remember, this won't work in a joint or blunt, it's not hot enough. At the very least, you need to have a pipe and lighter with a big flame, but I highly recommend a bong with ice-cool water and a butane torch lighter.

    Standardized means that they do a very precise job when extracing the salvinorin-A and placing it uniformly on the leaves. Non-standardized means the extraction is crude and is prone to imprecision. Non-standardized has always worked just fine for me, but if you want to use it to conduct experiments where you need fine measurements, you should get standardized.

    I suggest just getting non-standardized 10x if money is an issue for you. 20x is too powerful, and standardized is probably not what you're looking for.

    If you are smoking it correctly, and you're not a hard-head, then you should be able to get powerful experiences from just a pinch of that 10x. You should be able to get at least 4 or 5 experiences from a single gram, if not more.
     
  3. Slug420

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    thanks for the reply

    i think i was smoking it right maybe i wasnt but i used my hommade water bong with a mini torch and held each hit in for 15-20 seconds and after 3 to 4 big hits i got some effect and started feeling light headed and kinda good lasted a good 20 something minutes but no visuals

    what do you suggest i do differently ?

    have you or anyone from this site recieved a great trip just from 6x ?
     
  4. yemforbin

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    lie down and close your eyes. and yes, you can have a very intense experience with 6x.
     
  5. Becknudefck

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    ive never tried it, but someone said although its really fun to do, its a waste of money cause it doesnt last that long. Not sure if its true though....
     
  6. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Slug420:

    (1) Hold it in longer. Ideally, you need to hold it in for a whole thirty seconds! Also, even if you are using a torch lighter, be ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that you are burning it to the CORE; like, you burn it until the green turns black, and then you burn it until the black turns white, and THEN you burn it MORE until you can't stand it anymore! ;) You have to torch it like you're a flamethrower trooper in the middle of World War II, be RELENTLESS! It helps to hyperventilate to pump oxygen through your blood to help you hold the hit in longer, then smack yourself in the face, yell a war cry like a medieval warrior, and then view the bowl as something that may not possibly survive to tell the emperor that you burned its village down!!

    It's possible that you are also be a salvia hard-head; about 1 in every 10 people can't get any strong effects from salvia, no matter how much they smoke ... sometimes, smoking more can help, but sometimes, it doesn't.

    Yes, I have had plenty of powerful experiences off of 6x. It's pretty easy for me; I usually don't even have to burn through more than half of an average bong bowl. Sometimes, I only need a quarter. Most other people I smoke with need a little more, but still only one hit's worth.

    Becknudefck: You should try it sometime! =P I don't think it is a waste of money at all. Every experience (even if not powerful) is an enlightening one, if you keep your mind open to receive the lessons this wonderful plant has to share with us. And, it's quite cheap! A gram of 6x leaf costs ... no more than $20, I'd say, and should be enough for 3 or 4 powerful experiences. That's cheaper than cannabis is; very cheap! And, like cannabis, if you order more at one time, it's even cheaper. =P
     
  7. ForestNymphe

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  8. Slug420

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    haha god damn u foreal ?

    should i burn it all up then smoke it or burn it while im smokeing it ?
     
  9. Hikaru Zero

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    LOL ... well, hey, I'm only expressing my own little quirks, and recommending you try them out! ;)

    As my lungs are probably about half the capacity of the norm, I usually have to take special preparation to take in the whole hit and hold it in for 30 seconds. Since I practice kendo in my free time, I'm one of those people who, when faced with something that will take a little bit of effort, goes into it with a kiai (war cry), something like, "ZUUUURREEEAAAUUGHHH!!," followed by a fumikomi (powerful stomp on the ground).

    It's said that the kiai/fumikomi draws the warrior's spirit into a person, and it's been proven (even on a scientific level) to increase the power of many techniques, and build confidence, discipline, and dedication. I definately note that it's far easier to take a hit if I've prepared my own mind for the experience beforehand. ;)

    Just try it out ... it works.
     
  10. Hikaru Zero

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    Unless you're using a gravity bong of some sort, then you want to burn it while you are smoking it.
     

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