i don't get why people complain about migrant children in detainment

Don't pretend that this is why you lost whatever respect you had. Are you suggesting this exact situation hasn't existed since before the last inauguration? Or that president Trump hasn't been asking for the money to fix it since day one?

 

if you commit a crime, you go to jail.. If you bring your kids to commit a crime, you and your kids go to jail. the jail is overburdened ..

If you wouldve been alive 20yrs ago. You might of seen the same conditions in our state prison and county jail systems. Which took the federal and state government years to fix. Also burdened by illegals committing crimes filling up our prisons. Hampering changes to those conditions as we type.

Walmart, Amazon and Wayfair could dump millions of beds and products and it still wouldnt be enough to seize the problem. Only make it more luxurious to be arrested at the border. And that is not a deterrent..

If you engage with other groups around the world. Youll learn there are many jobs in the central Americas. And not the violent third world country places the media is trying to portray it as.. There is very little reason to flee it. Unless otherwise seeking the handouts promised to them by democrats..

Gonna get me a burrito. I dont see any violent gangs around.. As much as the crisis at the border is fabricate so is the report that there is nowhere safe in the Centrals.
Google Maps

If there are no jobs how did these roads get here?

 

I dont pretend

Okay a couple of points
1) Trump introduced the policy of purposely separating ALL children from their families as a means of deterrence.
The previous administration housed only children who showed up here alone.
Do you understand the difference?

But your "BuT ObUMmEr DiD iT" wont work with me because I wasnt a fan of his immigration policy either
And if kids were kept in the same conditions then, then that's still fucking horrible. I'm talking morality here, not politics.
But we know you dont really care either way, you're just trying to deflect from what is happening now because it involves your hero

2) so as I said above, Trump is detaining many more kids than under previous administrations specifically because of a policy HE created of separating families. Previous administrations didnt do this.
And you're trying to argue that he hasn't been given the money to fix the problem HE created?
And you're mistaken anyways, for a couple of reasons:
1) the money to ensure these kids are taken care of properly should be part and parcel of the budget used to award contracts to the companies running the detention center. Meaning if they can award contracts in the first place then the money to ensure the kids are well cared for already exists. The budget has already been approved for the contracts or the detention centers wouldn't exist in the first place.
And 2) that's a moot point anyways because most of these kids already have relatives in the US in the first place. The administration isnt detaining the kids out of necessity. They're not orphans, they're not foster kids. They have family, and they're being denied the right to be released to their family out of cruelty, not necessity.
And they're being denied basic requirements like healthcare and hygienic materials and decent food out of cruelty, not neccessity.
Some hero you have there buddy

 

BuT oBuMmEr DiD iT

I could make bumper stickers and make millions

 

Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor. You dont generally go to jail for a misdemeanor, and if you do it only happens after an appearance in court. You arent generally detained indefinitely for a misdemeanor leading up to your court date
Declaring asylum, either at the border or after committing a misdemeanor by crossing illegally, is the start of a legal process

And I wasnt aware it was now policy for children to serve jail sentences with their parents, when did that start?

 

I think that's probably true...

 

So typical. Create who I am and what I believe in your mind, convince yourself it's true, make up facts about contracts dealing with national budget issues, and viola, you sleep in a safe and cozy little cocoon of self righteous warmth.

 

is a criminal element behind every illegal entry whether it be just getting in their smuggling drugs smuggling their selves their kids, human trafficking, sex trafficking..
again there's very little reason to flee from down there there's much jobs in the industries trucking hospitality building farming you name it. Central America's pretty much well a tropical Paradise anything in the world can grow there and thrive..
An industrial complex can be built there in the scale of China. Too much forestry protection bad military, bad governments..
Again system that is overburden by so many people trying to get in.. Takes longt for that to get processed.



Now if you want my personal opinion I believe there shouldn't be a single wall separating Canada the United States Mexico Central America South America as we should all be together on this little side of the Earth..
However there's no way to ensure that terrorists from other countries don't use that pathway to do terror..

There's a conservative underground plan to let every one of those people out of those detention centers and not let any more in completely lock the borders down..

cpo shut down all the garbage mashers on the detention level..

I believe your heart is in the right place. Have you ever been involved in humanitarian efforts were at least 25 50 people are dying per day?..

Border crisis people suffering is very exaggerated. The let my people go routine is just boring..
focus on the problems in your backyard focus on your life wasting your time screeching on the internet about people that have nothing to do with you that are exaggerated on the media is really bringing you to a depressive state of mind.
and when I use the word you it's not directed towards you is directly towards all. A few handful of people sick dying is exaggerated by the media to be thousands in the numbers..

You can't always get what you want..
If you wish the same thing that these people wish for would you get it?
it's only because you have lived here long enough to know your American you can just get a job whenever you want and everything like that is cool..
I generally have no problem with these people coming into our country especially Mexicans I love Mexicans I love Latin people all together I don't give a about that but the fact that they're entering too rapidly for no reason at all ,we should integrate to their countries because I want to go there I don't care about living here I'll give my house all these Mexicans for $130,000 it's a 12 * room giant building y'all mofis seen it. I'm asking $300,000 joodevelopment. But for Mexicans $130,000.

 

Edit
Never mind I dont really see a point in arguing about this with you
You know you cant defend the neglect and abuse of children taken away from their families by the state
Its indefensible

But I dont make up facts. Private companies are awarded contracts for migrant detention centers and the care of the children, and basic necessities like toothpaste and soap, should be included in the contracts. Not a hard concept to grasp.

 

Look I respect your opinion but I dont think people should turn a blind eye to this. We're talking about the suffering of children and I dont understand how that doesn't bother some people.
And it's annoying how you always accuse people of screeching on the internet or whatever, you put it in different terms sometimes but the thought behind it is the same
And I think that's silly, this is a forum. Forums are for talking about a variety of subjects. You're wrong to think just because people talk about certain topics on the internet doesn't mean they dont do anything to improve their communities or their lives. My talking about current events takes up no more time than you bullshitting around in the stoners lounge, you shouldn't be so critical of what people choose to discuss while they're here, we're all just here to pass the time
And I also think you're wrong about there being no violence or anything wrong in central American countries, there's thousands of first hand accounts from people fleeing that contradict that what you're saying, not to mention verifiable crime statistics
But I think your heart's in the right place too

 

And also I'm not going by what the media is saying about the detention centers because the media hasn't really been allowed access. I'm going off what the lawyers advocating for these kids are saying.

 

If I could get board a chopper right and drop humanitarian aid to them I certainly would. This crisis is inflated by the media..


As well the economy doing so great that is also inflated. The rush to come here meaningless... The same treasures are available on their other side of the borders.

visit one of your local jails or homeless centers see what their conditions are like before yinz start pulling thorns out of non-existent eyes.

 

Your photo is from Veracruz, a state in Mexico with 3 percent unemployment. Mexico has net emigration to the US.

Honduras is a failed (nation) state, it and El Salvador having the highest murder rate in the world.

List of countries by intentional death rate - Wikipedia

Honduras schools, hospitals 'falling apart' from lack of funding

 

It was relevant that even the left leaning media excerpted the question raised in the debates. Raise your hand if you think illegal immigrants should be entitled to Universal Heathcare. All but one Dem raised their hand. Tell me it isn't about politics!!!!!

So walk over the border no matter how you get here.....get free crap.........what a shock.

 

Ten year old female child was taken from the persons that brought them across.. child had 20 different semen samples in her.
Texas Medical Professional: Migrants Quarantined with UNKNOWN Disease, 10-Year Old Girl Found With 20 Types of Semen In Her - Big League Politics

 

Come on...that's all right wing propaganda fear mongering. Congolese for christ sake. Don't they even know how to spell Latino anymore. Stupid Right Wing Nut Jobs.

I went to Houston not long ago. Home to a large detainee center. Due to political pressure about holding detainees too long, they decided to just release them into the wild there. It looks like a freaking 3rd world country in the city parks and public sites.

Meanwhile my g/f got tasked with determining the feasibility of providing healthcare to a proposed tent city being shoved down the throats of the local community that has an old navy field that is largely used for storage. They did so likely because we are the richest county in the state. Her response was.......We have to evacuate our current patients in our own present community when a hurricane comes here, how are we supposed to develop a plan for a tent city that will cease to exist if the brand new hurricane season we just entered actually has a hurricane that bears down on us? Her boss said....Come up with a plan and forget something that may not happen.

Great logic abounds everywhere.

So her plan was....evacuate them to North Dakota. Bring them back in December after the season ends.

She will probably not be getting a raise this year.

 

The human rights standing of the US is in the toilet because of Trump and his cronies. Surely no one believes we should be taking out fascist anger on children. Obama tried his level best to come up with immigration policy that made sense but the “R” house and obstinate “R “ senators made sure it didn’t happen.
And, while we are at it, we need to recognize that economic underdevelopment is not the fault of lazy workers or a lack of incentive. Capitalist underdevelopment starts in the developed world and the game is put together to exploit the third world.

 

Yo quiero taco Bell

 

This thread is about migrant children in detention, isn't it?