Brexit anybody?

Yet more evidence of recession following 'brexit'

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/10/22/brexit-gloom-laid-bare-in-a-terriblea-manufacturing-report/

 

You are bloody right. I would not sign the letter either.

 

Do you have a similar report about the German manufacturing?
Stop blaming Brexit and get on with it.
Did you realize the EU has a tax on tampons, they are not a necessity. The UK cannot remove the VAT because of the EU.

 

I agree :Vet all the EU sympathizers.......

 

You're showing your ignorance yet again !!! - that was only the first vote. There was a second vote minutes later on whether to agree to Boris's timetable - that vote (the more important one) Boris managed to lose yet again !!!

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/10/...is-brexit-plans-on-hold-after-hammer-blow-co/

 

Ah, the ol' second vote trick huh.

 

First time your parliament actually voted for a deal. 2nd vote you speak of is just about the timetable.

Not only now do you have to deal with the fact the referendum decided democratically to leave, you also have to deal with the fact your parliament just approved a deal

 

May

Once again showing your ignorance – in 1973, the British government adopted a 17.5 percent VAT tax on sanitary products when they joined the European Union, they could have set that at 0% or exempt them but they didn’t, under pressure the government has been reduced the rate to 5%.

The Irish don’t have the so called ‘Tampon Tax’ because they set the rate at 0% when they joined the EU (at the same time as us).

The UK could negotiate a 0% rate and push it through in the EU but this has never been a government priority.

And again the VAT harmonisation was something sort by the UK government and is set at 15% across member countries (the standard rate in the UK is higher at 20%) and UK keeps 99.7% of any revenue raised with 0.3% going to the EU as part of the EU membership fee (it’s not on top of it).

 

Leavers keep ignoring the fact that the leave vote was split

Was this the deal that those voting to leave, voted for – NO

In fact I think if this had been presented at the time as what a deal would look like the leaver leadership would have called it part of ‘Project Fear’.

The trick of those pushing for leaving (neoliberals, the right wing press) was they never defined what leave meant – they kept saying it was going to be great, brilliant, all about having you cake and eating it on sunny uplands. They talked of getting wonderful deals that would give us all of the benefits and no drawbacks, because we held all the cards.

And anyone that said differently was ‘putting down Britain’ and fearmongering.

Now the same leavers that lied during the campaign are trying to dress up this pig of a deal in silks and lipstick as what ALL the leavers always wanted and voted for.

My reply to that is – SO PUT IT TO THE PEOPLE – and I’m shouting because I don’t think they want to hear that.

 

Just wondering if I am looking into this too deeply?

From what I have seen on the TV etc. ,it just appears that the people who are very against the idea of a Second Referendum are the ones who voted to leave. Is this because there is a likelihood that a second vote would reverse the position as its now nearly 4 years since the first vote ?

 

Well, here is your parliamentary sovereignty in action:

 

Where is the leaver analysis?

If becomes very striking just how little rational analysis actually comes from the leave side they spend more time trying to score points (often on dubious or even false information) than they do trying to explain in any rational and coherent way why Brexit would be good for the UK, and once looked at it quickly becomes clear that the reason for this is because they don’t have any rational or coherent arguments.

 

Interesting you should say that. On the local news it was stated that costs of sending goods to Northern Ireland will increase due to the additional checks being required. This I am guessing is just going to be tip of the Iceberg . Businesses will be looking to pass these costs on and guess who will end up paying? The customer of course ie me and you .

 

Next popcorn munching moment is waiting to see what the EU does with the extension

 

According to reports( BBC ) if the extension is a long one ie around 3 months or more the PM will call for a General Election .

 

Another thing that I find rather disconcerting, even revolting, is that the very leavers that can’t defend their viewpoint and in no rational way explain why they think Brexit is a good idea, seem to feel childish glee at the prospect of the harm it will cause to the UK and many of its people.

 

At this moment the PM can’t call a general election without the permission of Parliament- it is up to them not him if one is called.

To add if one is called now that ends Parliament and if an extension hasn’t yet been accepted by Parliament I believe that means we would crash out on the 31st.

 

Probably the very same people who will be moaning and whining that the cost of their next BMW X Trail will be far more expensive . All these extra customs checks etc will have to be paid for .

 

Mysteron

I’m sorry to say that many leave supporters are follower’s not free thinkers they will be told (by the same people that told them leaving would be a good thing) that everything is the fault of the EU and they will just unquestioningly believe it.