Trump Acquittal Thoughts?

May depend on who it is, and how much of Congress we take back.

 

Drama Queens

How has your daily life changed in the last 3 years?

Apart from the tax cuts that is

 

Not sure how many forum members are part of the top 1% that got any benefit out of those

 

My tax refund is half of what I used to get and my paychecks arent noticeably more.
What tax cut?

 

No president has ever been removed from office by impeachment. Not Andrew Johnson, not Bill Clinton, and now not Donald Trump. It never got that far with Nixon. The obvious reason is that the Constitution requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate to remove a president. That fact alone guarantees that no president now or ever will be removed from office by a Senate impeachment trial. In retrospect, it is debatable if Nixon would have actually been removed from office by a Senate trial. There likely would have been enough Southern Democrats and conservative Republicans voting against Nixon's removal that the two-thirds required for it would not have been reached, and Nixon would have remained in office, though probably badly wounded politically, just as happened with Andrew Johnson. Trump actually emerged from his impeachment trial more popular than when it began. Pelosi and Co. knew that impeachment would fail but they proceeded anyway in the expectation/hope that it would wound Trump badly enough to bring about his defeat in the November election. But the practical effect of the failed impeachment is that Trump emerged more popular than before and Biden emerged the unintended victim, his candidacy a melting ice cube. So if Pelosi's grand impeachment season results in Biden gone as a candidate and Sanders triumphant as the likely nominee, Trump can send her and Schiff a big thank you bouquet in November when he crushes Bernie in a 35-state landslide victory. If Sanders takes down Pelosi's House majority with him in November, Pelosi will have no one but herself to blame for starting this political kamikaze mission in the first place.

 

Wrong question. The question is how will it change in the next five or so. Another recession or a civil or nuclear war could change then quickly. And apart from that, believe it or not, lots of Americans I know, even in Trump country, are seriously concerned about the state of our country and the direction it's headed, and that in itself affects the quality of our lives. Not all people are pigs or apes.

 

And we can kiss our democracy goodbye. Until his hubris does him in, which will surely happen..

 

I didn't have to write a check to the IRS last year. And it appears I'll actually get a refund this year. Could be a filing status thing.

 

What about putting them back in chains? I mean, while we're discussing drama (nuclear war! Bwahahahahahaha, as if). I do so love leftist scaremongering.

 

Who is "them" Writers Panic??? Put who back in chains???

And leftist scaremongering ………… What about the Repub. scaremongering that Obama was a Muslim terrorist, was a dictator / tyrant because he used a few executive orders??? Trump has blown the lid off the record for executive orders. And today he pardoned a bunch of "white collar" criminals who've done some of the same shit he's guilty of. One of them is Michael Milken - the "junk bond king." He fleeced millions of dollars from everyday Americans - - and guess what - fleeced Republicans and Democrats both. How many Republicans are happy to see the man who fleeced them out of hard-earned money set free?? He pardoned several others that were convicted of corruption. What message does that send to the country??? That he's "TOUGH" on crime???

He's an ego-centric, self-centered narcissist who brags he "just grabs 'em by the pussy" and "moves on 'em like a bitch" when talking about women. If a Dem did all the shit - and that's what it is - SHIT - Trump's done, the Repubs would be puking blood and screaming their silly asses off. But because it's "one of theirs" ………………. it's OK by the majority of the truly spineless.

 

this is really not my area of expertise and i didn't follow the whole thing, but if he was a democrat wouldn't that mean that it never would have made it to the senate?

 

I don't know if we can remove him in the next election. I'm more confident that we can give the Senate back to the Dems, thus making Donnie a lame duck.

 

Utterly untrue that only the top 1% benefited from the Trump tax cut. The matter does not lend itself particularly well to 30 second sound bytes, but per Forbes (see link):

What share of the tax cuts went to the rich and the poor? The richest 1 percent received 9.3 percent of the total tax cuts, the top 5 percent got 26.5 percent, the top quintile received 52.2 percent and the bottom quintile got 3.3 percent. So, the rich received the lion’s share of the tax cut. But they also pay the lion’s share of taxes. The top 1 percent pay 30.2 percent, the top 5 percent pay 51.1 percent, the top quintile pays 80.1 percent and the bottom quintile pays negative 9.0 percent.

You have shown yourself unable- or unwilling- to exercise a modicum of intellectual integrity. I suppose a basic lack of integrity goes along with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Did The Rich Get All Of Trump's Tax Cuts?

 

Explaining the Trump Tax Reform Plan

What it looks like at first glance is, the income tax drops were by a few percentage points and will expire.

What happens when they expire in 2025? I don't know.

 

My dad was married to an Australian woman. She overstayed her visa. Stupidly, my father called immigration to see what they should do. They assured him that she just needed to return to Australia and could come right back. This was of course a lie. So in November of 2018 she flew back home.

At the same time, my father was diagnosed with stage 4 stomach cancer. If they had talked to a lawyer, she was viable to stay on an emergency visa for a sick American spouse. But she did not find out in time, my father didn't ask any advice, and because of that, he died alone in March.

I wasted 10 grand on an immigration lawyer who informed me that if she had just stayed thing would have been okay, and that lying to get people to self-deport was probably encouraged by recent immigration policies.

I can't be certain. But there are always human costs to public policy

 

Oh, for crying out loud.

Yes, let's not concentrate on the last 3 years of reality, where not a lot of anything of consequence happened, let's focus on the next 5 years where in your imagination, civil war, nuclear war, dogs and cats living together might happen

Where supposedly your democracy has gone forever for not supplying anti tank missiles for 2 months to some buttwipe ex Soviet corruptocracy


Dramaqueens

 

Inside the Trump 'MAGA' hat factory

 

Sorry to hear that, lode

 

Their lives aren't any different. They just want to keep bitching about Trump day after day, week after week, etc...

 

They will expire...for us. If you are lucky enough to be a corporation, however, your tax cuts are permanent and aren't by a few percentage points either, from a top rate of 35% to a flat rate of 21%.

And another thing. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that net tax revenues will decrease by $1.6 trillion by 2027 while federal outlays will decrease by a mere $200 billion. So about $1.4 trillion is debt in the result.

Cost Estimate for the Conference Agreement on H.R. 1 | Congressional Budget Office