2019-nCoV Coronovirus (COVID-19]

Hospitalization and Mortality rates are the same as the flu

Flu vaccines are only 20% effective in over 65 yr olds

And unlike the flu it's just not hitting the tropics, Brazil is the only country in the tropics past 1000 deaths

Still have a long way to go to get to that 250,000 to 500,000 worldwide estimate for flu deaths a year

And the flu kills kids, Covid doesn't

And, next flu season will be a lot deadlier because everyone has been isolating, well except for essential workers

 

As with all respiratory infections they run their course and they done.. Breaking the chain of herd immunity only results in further loss of life in the 2nd an 3nd wave ..
We can battle this all day. The deaths by starvation and poverty much higher than Covid kennel cough.. As well violence is escalating.. Human beings are much more resilient fighting colds and coughs than they are at fighting WAR!

 

You mean the herd immunity against the common flu? We're not sure to what extent that might decrease.
If you mean herd immunity against covid19, that doesn't exist yet in the first place.

 

Hi Nostradamus.

 

Vietnam has yet to record a single covid death btw

 

I’m tired of all of these specious arguments.

Let’s take for instance Orison’s argument concerning the deadly flu outbreak of 2017-12018 which killed 80,000 people here in America.

With social distancing, masks, and gloves (which we didn’t do) those numbers go down precipitously.

Hey, create a vaccine for COVID-19 and I say lets open everything up.

 

Covid-19 vaccine trial on humans starts as UK warns restrictions could stay in place until next year - CNN

thank heavens...

 

Its funny how yinz overlook this very thing..

The deaths by starvation and poverty are going to be much higher than Covid kennel cough.. As well violence is escalating.. Human beings are much more resilient fighting colds and coughs than they are at fighting WAR!

Youre distancing suggesting genocides in underdeveloped counties ..
Fuck it they just worthless people anyways..

 

Ok. That's definitely true... But won't it take much longer for poverty to kill 2,000 people in a day?

 

also, cancers and similar not being diagnosed early because people not going to hospitals

 

The distancing is predominantly ment for our own countries. That its nonsensical to try in India or little use for it in the Congo doesn't negate the use here.

That a longer lockdown has severe consequences is not overlooked. That's why the aim is to gradually but sensibly open everything up again as soon as responsibly possible.
No distancing or other measures at all would have ment instant and ridicilous chaos in a lot of places in our countries and still caused an economic recession and other societal problems months later. It's a crisis regardless.

 

You understand that if there wasn't a lockdown they would have an equally severe problem?

 

This was an interesting article

Denver opened up in 1918 pandemic to deadly results - CNN

I like when things can be put into some sort of historical context

 

I don't think social distancing is synonymous with the shutdown. While there might be some businesses where it is unavoidable to implement social distancing, this doesn't apply to all businesses which have been deemed "non-essential" and been forced to shutdown.

It seems our gradual reopening of businesses is going to rely on implementing social distancing measures, I don't know how other countries plan to reopen.

 

Similar. Most western countries first open up facilities for the lowest risk groups again, like elementary schools. Businesses will have to adapt to the social distancing measures at first in order to reopen. The less contact is needed the easier. So to name one example, hairdressers seem at this time still fucked. But I saw some creative solutions already so likely only a matter of time before a method is found.
In restaurants and public transportation it seems crucial to have less people for the time being

 

'Wet markets' likely launched the coronavirus. Here's what you need to know.
may make you sign in, just refresh and it goes away.

 

Pakistan Calls Off Limits On Mosque Attendance In Time For Ramadan

 

These Racist 'Wuhan Plague' Plaques Are Popping Up Around Atlanta - VICE

 

According to these articles, more than 85% of COVID patients in China were treated with traditional Chinese medicine, or a combination of traditional Chinese medicine and conventional western medicine.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/chi...pruiks-covid-19-benefits-20200317-p54b09.html
https://nypost.com/2020/03/09/demand-for-chinese-herbs-acupuncture-spikes-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

Traditional Chinese medicine includes both acupuncture and herbal treatments. The Chinese claim the treatments were highly effective.

You'd think a treatment that was that widely used would be getting a lot more attention. I think it's plausible that a hide-bound attitude toward alternative medicine, or special-interest influence, could be suppressing investigation or use of herbal treatments.

One might have said with equal confidence before the opioid epidemic, " I'm sure if it was abundantly clear that we could have a massive wave of addiction and opioid-related deaths, opioids would not be so widely prescribed. Surely extensive studies have been carried out to ensure that the prescription of opioids is safe".

It's now clear that the scientific evidence that wide-spread prescription of opiods would be safe was completely flimsy. Given the pharmaceutical companies' aggressive tactics in promoting opioids, and the billions of dollars in profits they made, maybe the scientific medical consensus was manipulated, at least in this case?