Federal troops in Portland

The one guy is wearing a Boogaloo/MAGA facemask. That's Trump's personal militia, and they're willing to martyr themselves for Trump.

 

And as for boogaloos being far right, I don’t really know how they vote tbh as individuals. and neither do you, but clearly they stand with BLM, at least some do, and visa versa. They are against white supremacy as well as one of your articles stated, The flag he had was because he said it was time for change.
Maybe he wanted to burn the flag for all I know. Have the same shared goal and philosophy As blm and other groups of colour., Black people in America also believe in their 2nd amendment right, it is not reserved for the white right. And clearly raz from chaz before in the right to open carry as well. The right to shoot people too, no problem and kill people. I don’t agree, but whatever. I am not defending any of these groups. I think they simply want civil war and the victor takes the spoils, but at whose expense? I don’t think they care who dies, as long as they win and maintain power.



Boogalooo Bois were MOSTLY WHITE, but not all were. They were against white supremacy, that is clear. Isn’t the far right White racist or do you not agree with that like blm and the left political party promotes?

as for the saints whatever site,..as for me not reading the first one you posted from far right. I didn’t want to read more separate kind of bs based on colour or religion. Read enough of it and don’t approve, never have. They are not a white black thing either, but are a religious thing which could have black or African American members, I don’t know, I don’t care to delve into that site too deeply.

 

No use arguing with people who have already made up their minds on a given subject. John cleese of Monty Python fame mentioned that Trump is an asshole and pointing out the stupidity of those who vote for him. (Source: The Daily Beast). I don't have a dog in this fight but I do think this is an interesting dialogue. Those people who are from the middle-east and India are often unfairly targeted by British police. In particular those from Pakistan and those who are Muslim.

 

looks Australian to me

Is that an Aussie spelling thang, or do you not know how to correctly spell the word?

l'll take a wild guess, you.

 

just so you know, I am one of those evil moderates hated on both sides and hope for the best because of options. Lol

 

yep he is but doesn’t know it. Lol

BLM has called the wall of moms anti blackness Too, for what? Because they stood between violent Blm rioters and The police and helped do damage with them? They are being called white supremacists too now, yet came in many shades. What a joke.

 

You really are quite funny, burn any crosses recently?

 

The Portland 'Wall of Moms' movement is falling apart after a local Black Lives Matter group accused it of 'anti-Blackness'

Oh FFS, could this get anymore ridiculous?

It probably can

 

Oh, no. Not the Nation of Islam! Are the Black Muslims in Portland now, too? Remember the topic: Federal Troops in Portland. Have the Black Muslims joined the military, or are you saying they're somehow behind the attack on the courthouse? If I can follow, I think you're suggesting a more tenuous connection: BLM has been cozy with Louis Farrakhan, from which you conclude that BLM is racist. First of all, that doesn't follow logically. If I'm friendly with a Catholic, it doesn't mean I am one or like the Pope. Second, even if they are racist, how does that bear on federal troops in Portland. Remember you haven't established that BLM is behind the protests in Portland, except being tangentially responsible for a slogan that inspired the protesters of the death of George Floyd. Logic is obviously not your strong suit.

Not necessariy. The terms "right' and "left" originated in the context of the French National Assembly, and had nothing to do with race. The Right was about privilege, for the king, the clergy and the aristocracy; the Left was about equality.

Nobody asked you to. Just read the part that is provided to clarify my point.

 

What is her point? Please let me know. I can't figure it out. I'm not claiming anybody is a white supremacist or racist, as I think I've said before often enough. That seems to be an association BBLB made a while back. I'm claiming that the Boogaloo Bois are among the many groups who think it's cool to promote chaos in hopes of starting a revolution against the current political order in the U.S. Many such folks (like Charlie Manson with helter skelter) hope to start a race war. That doesn't necessarily make them racist.

As for who is going to take a nineteen year old seriously, I hope nobody. Most of these guy's are pimply faced adolescents searching for their fifteen minutes of fame. But they have weapons and are nuts and therefore potentially dangerous.

 

According to the SPLC:

Over the last month, at least seven men associated with the boogaloo movement have been arrested for possession of weapons and plotting violent attacks. Three were arrested Saturday in Las Vegas
after plotting to terrorize protesters and attack other targets, including a power substation.

According to a criminal complaint, they wanted to “create a chaotic and confusing scene for the upcoming protest” in order to force “the government to show its hand.” Others men who
associate with the boogaloo movement have been arrested in Texas, Colorado and Ohio.

The boogaloo meme itself emerged concurrently in anti government and white power online spaces in the early 2010s. In both of these communities, “boogaloo” was frequently associated with racist violence
and, in many cases, was an explicit call for race war.

Today the term is regularly deployed by white nationalists and neo-Nazis who want to see society descend into chaos so that they can come to power and build a new fascist state.

 

What kinds of folks would "want to see society descend into chaos so that they can come to power and build a new fascist state." Losers. I'd say. Millennial and/or Gen z mostly male misfits who have been unable to hold steady jobs and form stable relations with women. They see no future in the existing order and nothing much to lose without it. There are unfortunately too many of those in the Proud Boys, Patriot Prayer, the militias and the Boogaloo movement--a lumpenproletariat of gamergaters and ex-military PTSDs ready to be mobilized by the right Pied Piper.

 

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Unfortunately, I don't remember where it came from, but I think it was from Dunn or his supporters or the Virginia Knights. Probably no great loss.

 

Then we should be getting on just fine, since I put myself in the same camp, with a slight tilt toward the liberal left.

 

For another view, see this by a University of Georgia political scientist. Trump badly miscalculated in Portland – and even he knows it

 

If you saw pictures of David Duke with president President what would you say? Him smiling, cozied up to him for photos... and attending and awarding, recommending even that he teach classes on whiteness what would you say?

Farrakhan is equally as racist as David Duke. BLM, which is Only political has arranged for him to speak at their speaking engagements.

Or how about the support they showed to Nick Cannon, to which BLM supported his statements of:
that Black people are the true Hebrews and that Jews have usurped their identity.

Cannon then segues into a discussion of skin color — “And I’m going to say this carefully,” he begins — to allege that people who lack sufficient melanin are “a little less.”

Those without dark skin have a “deficiency” that historically forced them to act out of fear and commit acts of violence to survive, he said.

“They had to be savages,” Cannon said, adding that he was referring to “Jewish people, white people, Europeans,” among others.

Wednesday morning, founder of Black Lives Matter SC, Lawrence Nathaniel defended Cannon saying he agrees with the controversial comments.

“What Nick Cannon believes in,” Nathaniel said, “is the beliefs of Louis Farrakhan and Malcolm X who taught the same teachings of what white folks was and how they are and how they treat Black people.”

“Personally I didn’t see nothing wrong with his comments at all, I just think that he spoke the truth” added Nathaniel.

same sort of shit has been said in my city by their blm leaders. No use for this racist group. not saying no use for black people , but nothing in common with them and their racist views.

or how about BLM LA? Or how about women’s march leaders also praising Farrakhan? I simply can not support groups or stand with those leaders who support and praise such an evil vile man. these are very influential people on the left, very influential groups with young people. People who give money to these groups and use it to pay for Farrakhan to speak and influence young people with hate speech. Blm founders have apologized for this kind of support, and removed the references from their website. As if removing it from their site simply changes their mind about him. It does not change anything, just hides what is actually the truth of the matter. Erase it and it is no longer fact? Like burning of papers, just doesn’t exist. I would rather know who is racist than not, but I do know that blm is a racist org ... erasing this support doesn’t make it go away, just hidden and silent.

BLM-L.A. leader and anti-Semitism - Santa Barbara News-Press

Women's March co-president Tamika Mallory discusses controversial relationship with Louis Farrakhan


So now I believe Portland has called for abolishing the police, as has seattle. Abolish, not defund. Caving to the demands of a racist far lef5 group. This is exactly what blm is demanding, something that Farrakhan wants too. 5but it means nothing that obama posed for photos with such a racist man. It means nothing that Obama’s pastor pretty much says the same racist stuff Farrakhan say. and it means nothing that blm founders Have arranged and showed support for Farrakhan to speak at their rallies.

You would be very quick to say Trump is racist if he was smiling and posing with David duke, and so would I. And I do the same for those who support nations of Islam and the leaders of it. So yes, I Have seeN, and heard and know it , BLM is decisive and racist, they simply try to hide it, but are not successful.

 

The feds are leaving, replaced by state troopers, and the protests were peaceful last night. Still I'm sure Trump will take credit for it.