What do you think will happen after we die?

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  1. Joshua Tree

    Joshua Tree Remain In Light

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    You mean doubting the existence of God? If there is no God then there would be no Hell, since Hell was run by a fallen angel I believe, according to Christian mythology.
     
  2. Candy Gal

    Candy Gal Lifetime Supporter

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    I thought I died once
    I was unconscious for a while.
    It was nice
     
  3. Grandeur

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    If it does exist and you doubt its existance, you are in hell indefinitly.

    That is what all 3 religions of God say.
     
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  4. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Well there are four stages of human decomposition…lol…


    Unlike your average Muslim or Islamic extremists who believe if you martyr yourself by detonating a vest filled with explosives into a crowd of people, you can expect to find 72 virgins awaiting you in paradise
     
  5. themnax

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    well i don't think your remains are you, your memories will likely rot with them, but there may be something else that is a sort of more essence of yourself, persists into other lives, future lives on random worlds, where you still go through childhood and on to all the other stages we go through in any life, just different worlds so everything is different except that aspect of us, which is our perspectives, priorities and preferences. we may even get to take one or two conceptual souvaneers from one life to the next, but i mean that's completely a maybe, the unknown is unknown and that's the main thing about all of that. i could say anything and maybe that would happen and maybe, more likely a zillion other things instead.

    now a maybe simpler perspective is what happens when a sapient species becomes extinct. i know the process, what comes after that, would probably have to take a very long time, but you know how when a big tree falls all the little trees get more sun and get bigger quicker. maybe that's not a completely valid analogy, but i like to think it might be, and then you get some other species evolving sapience and changing form in the process but still its root form being its own instead of ours.

    so that's where i get this, how i look at furry, as being the "meek" who "inherit the earth". (or whatever other world it might happen to happen on.)
     
  6. themnax

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    let me point out that there are a hell of a lot more then three religions, though you are half right about there being a lot of things all or nearly all of them agree on.
    but hell doesn't have to be some cringingly painful exotically other place in some other life. hell is any and every tyranny. and authoritarianism is tyranny, and it is what happens,
    not because people are free to choose what they believe, but because they choose to claim that aggressive inconsiderateness is any kind of freedom.

    eternity is also one possibility out of many, and doesn't seem any more likely then for this life to be eternal for anyone. but you do, as in reference to other contexts, you do define yourself by perceptions, priorities and preferences, and these in turn, are really how you experience wherever you are. so hell doesn't have to be anything like a place. and different awarenesses, meaning people, can be some of them experiencing a hell and others a heaven, in essentially the same place. but it does take paying attention and choosing to, to alter our individual essential natures which are how we experience them. the main other thing, a culture of the dominance of aggressiveness, of accepting aggressive inconsiderateness, as in any way natural or free, which is what authoritarian tyranny statistically is, and where it comes from, that is the one universal hell, whatever beliefs or anything else.
     
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  7. Barking Spider

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    I believe you will feel exactly the way you did before you were born or conscious.
     
  8. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    hell is the blindness of fanatacism. every fanatacism.
     
  9. Grandeur

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    I was talking about the certain God of 3 religions.
     
  10. Have you talked to him?
     
  11. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    same "god" of all other religions too. more specific details of its nature remain completely unknown outside of blind fanatical speculation.
    the unknown won't stop anything you or anyone else wishes to believe, nor whatever wishes to exist, which are by the way, entirely separate things,
    but in either case continues to owe nothing to what any belief or person may claim to know about it.

    those "three" religions are sequential iterations of the same religion, of which there are many earlier and at least one more recient.
    (26 total such iterations to date, at thousand year intervals, beginning with the revelation of 'adam')
     
  12. soulcompromise

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    Grandeur, maybe it just depends on belief.
     
  13. Alonso376

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    Wake up being pulled out of a vagina then spend most of your life trying to get back in one.
     
  14. themnax

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    religions exist because the ego refuses to accept its ignorance.
    gods exist, if they choose to, because they choose to, and nothing we believe or don't believe has anything to do with it.

    the idea of a god wanting to be feared came about because that was how people understood the idea of power.
    but the power of a god, in no way depends upon their being feared by anything. (at least not as i would define or understand the concept)

    the idea of heavens and hells follow from this. or are seen as doing so. but really these are things we tell each other for reasons that are really about ourselves.
    now an impersonal and impartial karma, that does not depend on any sort of personality to judge, but is simply a function of existence and how existence works,
    that not even a god or god-like being might be immune to, i find more convincing, because the universe i live in, appears to me, impersonal and impartial.

    (which certainly doesn't prevent suffering. but rather suffering and pleasure both happen, and which happens more has a lot to do with how each other live,
    how open our eyes are to what really results from what, any how much we do about how much we care what about)

    maybe this life is it, and maybe death is no more eternal then life. and maybe something happens, is experienced, between living physical lives, or maybe, well maybe anything.
    we don't know what we don't know, and not knowing is what there is, however hard that may be for our egos to accept.

    accepting our ignorance for what it is, leaves open a door for us to be able to imagine an unlimited range of possible adventures,
    far beyond the confines of what people ignorantly attempt to demand of each other to pretend the same things as themselves.

    why assume the worst, when there is no reason to assume anything at all?
     
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  15. la Principessa

    la Principessa Member since '08

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    I believe we die, and that's it. Maybe our consciousness kind of lives on in the universe in the way that we can't ever really delete things that are on the internet. But no heaven with fluffy clouds, and no hell.
     
  16. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    My friend flatlined twice after a bad accident in 2005 and he tells me that suddenly he was in some forest-like area and all his ancestors gathered around him and started greeting him like he was a long lost friend. He says he can't speak for anyone else, that maybe that was just how he specifically was supposed to experience the entrance to an afterlife, but I really liked the idea. He said when he was in a coma, it was like his conscience was floating in a state of limbo with several others, and months later after he had woken up and was in a rehabilitation hospital, he met a guy that he had been in "limbo" with who happened to have been in a coma at the same time, and the guy remembered him as well. I thought that was very interesting.
     
  17. Dax

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    Your life force aka your soul leaves its host aka your dead body. A life force cannot survive within a corpse so it hovers around for a while but leaves as soon the as grieving family become too much for it.

    If you would like to know more message me and I will send you my article ...On Leaving & Arriving ... My Take on Reincarnation.
     
  18. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    hell is where we already are because of people being inconsiderately aggressive toward each other,
    (when more people realize this it doesn't have to be and even becomes less of one)
    so if afterlife is different, and you don't see a lot of dead people walking around here (and how would that be different from life if they were?),
    so maybe there's nothing, but whatever there is, the unknown is unknown and owes nothing to what we tell each other,
    so the range of possibilities is more diverse, more closer to infinite, then anything we can imagine and certainly more then anyone has ever written.

    so think of it as an advanture, but considering the possibility of nothingness too, its maybe pointless to be in any hurry to get there.
     
  19. Grandeur

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    what happened?
     
  20. Grandeur

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    There is no reality about it?
     
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