Cold Water Extraction.

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by ganja420, Feb 19, 2005.

  1. ganja420

    ganja420 Member

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    Whats up fellow opiate users and abusers... I've heard alot of people talk about the cold water extraction.. but everytime I trying to search for it on the web. I find sites asking for money just to tell me how to do it. I'm no stranger to painkillers. I've been a recreational user for about 5 years or so. I've done it all from the fentanyl patches to 5mg lorcet.. Well anyway can someone please tell me how to do the cold water extraction.. Thanks..
     
  2. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

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    i found this at www.neonjoint.com

    You can extract Codeine, hydrocodone, Oxycodone etc. almost any Rx narcotic with water as because they are soluable in water.
    Cold water extraction works well.



    Below is an example of a codeine extraction.
    The idea behind the following extraction is that
    acetaminophen and aspirin (I'll use A/A from now on) are very
    _insoluble_ in cold water. Codeine phosphate (the most common
    salt of codeine) is very _soluble_ in water including cold water.
    The following table explains:

    Solubility (31C water) Solubility (21C water)

    Aspirin 1g / 100 ml 1g / 300ml

    Acetaminophen 1g / 70 ml 1g / 150 ml

    Codeine 1g / 2.3 ml 1g / 0.7 ml
    Phosphate

    So as you can see, both A/A aren't very soluble in 21C
    water, so if you cool the water to around 10C, the solubility will
    drop even further. That way you can dissolve 20 tablets in 50ml
    of hot water, cool the water down to 10C, filter the solution and
    end up with the same amount of codeine as the tablets contained
    but only a fraction of the original amount of A/A.

    [...]

    1. Obtain a quantity of tablets containing codeine, check to
    see if they contain anything other than codeine, caffeine,
    acetaminophen or aspirin. If they do, and you don't know whether
    or not it will be a problem, your best bet is not to use them.
    Measure out your desired amount of codeine (ex. 64 mg = 8 tablets
    * 8mg/tablet). You may want to add 2 extra tablets as it is quite
    likely you will lose some codeine in the procedure. As you get
    more experience with the procedure you will be able to get
    approx. 95% of the codeine extracted.

    2. Measure out some nice hot water, use approx. 40ml / 20 tablets
    or more if needed. I would suggest you don't go over 50ml for 20
    tablets. I don't know if the use of boiling water would destroy
    any of the codeine but your best bet is not to use it. Use hot
    water but not boiling. Make sure the tablets dissolve completely.
    Some dissolve on contact with water while others need some help
    dissolving by crushing them. Note : not all of the tablet will
    dissolve, there are water-insoluble fillers in the tablet and not
    all of the A/A will dissolve either(which is what we want).

    3. Place the solution in a cold bath, I just use some ice cubes
    in a container of water. Stir the mixture occasionally until the
    solution drops to about 15C or lower. You won't need a
    thermometer to measure the temperature, just make sure it's
    "cold". This will take about 30 min. If you wish to speed this
    up, you can use less water to dissolve the tablets, and add ice
    chips to cool the mixture faster. Just make sure you don't add
    so much ice that you drastically increase the volume of the mixture.

    4. Filter the solution using whatever you have. Coffee filters
    work well, but lab filters work the best. Just make sure you
    don't end up with obvious solids in the filtered solution. This
    will take about 1 hr. You may also want to rinse the solids left
    over in the filter with some ice-water to extract any remaining
    codeine.

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    Side notes Pretty much anything that CAN be used IV is better if you shoot it. Snorting, on the other hand, in addition to being horrible for your sinuses, is wasteful, and just doesn't work as well. Why? Beats me. I'm only speaking from my own, and many others experience. Don't use alot of water, use as little as possible. Codeine,hydrocodone, Oxycodone and morphine are all sensitive to heat and light. (Some more than others).
    This method will work for oxycodone, but as a side note Percocet and most off-brands contain a relatively small amount of acetaminophen (about 350 mg or so) compared to the oxycodone (5 mg). Since oxycodone is very strong, 2 or 3 percs should have you feeling pretty darn good (as long as you don't have a huge tolerance). As a result, unless you are taking 10 or 15 percs per day, you needn't worry about acetaminophen ingestion.



     

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