The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. snowtiggernd

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    Stole his country huh....
    These people just do not acknowledge the majority do they.
     
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  2. egger

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    Now it's an eighth interview, in-person this time.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/12/former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-aids-da-vance-criminal-probe.html
     
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  3. egger

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    Fox talked for years about the four who died in the Benghazi attack. It hasn't said much about the eight deaths caused by Trump's Capitol riot.

    Kilmeade wants others to stop talking about the 530,000 U.S. coronavirus deaths that were caused in part by Trump's ineptness.


    Fox News host says Biden should stop talking about 'the 500,000 dead' and quit kicking Trump 'in the groin'

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    "On Friday's episode of "Fox & Friends," co-host Brian Kilmeade scolded President Joe Biden for bringing up the COVID-19 death toll during his national speech the night before.

    "We don't need to go over the 500,000 dead. We had that moment," Kilmeade said.

    "Let's talk about the future moving forward," Kilmeade continued. "Every time he has a chance to praise the previous administration, he not only doesn't praise, he kicks them in the groin.""
     
  4. Eric!

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    Losers
     
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    lock him up
     
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  11. egger

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    Three distinguishing charactertics of Trump's stolen election narrative and why they have a high appeal to his followers.



    Op-Ed: Why so many people want to believe the election was stolen
    By Aaron C. Kay and Mark J. Landau
    Dec. 6, 2020 4 AM PT

    Op-Ed: Why so many people want to believe the election was stolen

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    "Whether by accident or design, the election fraud narrative features three characteristics that supercharge its psychological appeal: It makes a complex and hostile world seem orderly, controllable and certain.

    First, note that Trump and his supporters are suggesting a very specific reason for their loss: fraud. They are not arguing Biden’s victory is due to accidental miscounting or a random software error; rather, that it is the result of systematic ballot tampering and voting software manipulation. For psychological reasons, this is a crucial distinction.

    People want to view the world as predictable rather than chaotic. The possibility that many independent counties and states all, by chance, made a series of random mistakes skewing election results in the same direction does not fit with this deep-seated motivation.

    Claiming intentional fraud, by contrast, offers a single explanation for what would otherwise need to be an improbable series of coincidences. The fraud narrative rejects the unwanted election result in a way that satisfies the desire to view the world as orderly."
     
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    Op-Ed: Why so many people want to believe the election was stolen

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    "To be compelling, the fraud narrative also needs to be paired with another important element: an enemy. While the exact nature of this enemy shifted under Trump’s volatile messaging, it usually stands for a vast underground network of liberal organizations (the “Radical Left”), powerholders (e.g., the Clintons), private corporations (e.g., Big Tech), and policy makers (the so-called “deep state”).

    On the surface, the appeal of this message is puzzling. Why would people want to believe that powerful malevolent agents are conspiring behind the scenes to sabotage their goals? Yet, in the face of bad news, the idea of being the target of an enemy may feel less distressing than being subject to arbitrary, unpredictable forces like natural disasters, accidents or pathogens.

    And the more powerful, nebulous and covert the enemy, the more psychologically useful it is for sense-making. If the enemy is not portrayed as powerful, then it’s harder to imagine it being responsible for large-scale negative outcomes. And if the enemy is not portrayed as operating in the shadows, then it cannot be viewed as responsible for a multitude of diverse outcomes."
     
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    Op-Ed: Why so many people want to believe the election was stolen

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    "Finally, the third characteristic of the election fraud narrative is that it’s laden with arguments that cannot be tested by evidence. Political and social ideas that cannot be tested by evidence tend to have a stronger psychological advantage. For example, the view that “same-sex parents are bad because their children will have behavioral problems” can be tested and refuted or supported by evidence while the view that “same-sex marriage is bad because it is immoral” is not subject to such testing. Under threat, people adopt untestable ideas more readily and defend them more vigorously.

    Interestingly, the rhetoric surrounding election fraud has become more immune to testing over time. Consider the “deep state” specter. Such a covert enemy can never be interrogated or investigated. To someone convinced of its role in the election, not finding any trace of its involvement is only more evidence of its cunning. Those who insist the election was stolen by the deep state can tell themselves no one can prove them wrong.

    Trump’s stolen election conspiracy is so dangerous because it plays to people’s deep-rooted need for order and control and is impervious to arguments based on evidence. The result of all this? Trump’s supporters can feel safe investing in this narrative — and may well continue fighting zealously for it long after Biden takes office."
     
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    The LA Times article was published before the Capitol riot which showed the extent to which Trump's supporters were willing to support his narrative, even giving up their lives for him.
     
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    Trump's pressure call to Raffensperger is an example. Trump contended that voting machines had been secretly taken away from their locations in Georgia. Raffensperger replied to Trump's remark by saying no one took the machines. Trump responded by claiming that the innards of the machines were taken away. Raffensperger replied that the innards weren't taken away.

    During the same call, Trump claimed that a volunteer at a polling location, whose name was circulating the truther narrative social media sites, gave 15,000 illegal votes to Biden.

    Some of Trump's supporters followed a utility vehicle that left a polling location, mistakenly thinking that it was secretly taking away voting machines.

    At a MI hearing, a Trump star witness, Mellissa Carone, claimed that a food truck brought in a load of illegal ballots for Biden.
     
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    The approach of Trump and others of using increasingly unfalsifiable claims places them at as much of a disadvantage pragmatically as it does the advantage of appealing highly to the psychological needs of him an his followers.

    Trump's loss of sixty court cases shows the lack of traction with far-fetched claims. The frustration of his followers with all the losses culminated with the riot at the Capitol that tried to use aggression to overturn the election.

    Trump scored a few gains where the situation could be tested and resolved by observable facts. An example is a recount that recovered votes for him (and for Biden, but less than for Trump) of a memory card in a Trump-favored area that accidentally wasn't processed by the voting machine (even here, Trump insinuated that the oversight was nefarious). Another example is the sole court case he won that concerned how many days after the election new voters had to prove their identity in PA, which reduced the number from nine to six.
     
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    Because they are fucking stupid....
     
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  18. soulcompromise

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    Yep.

    & I'm concerned. You don't realize it until you work in the national answering service for a big company. But they call in... it's real.
     
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  19. hotwater

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    He beat up a capitol police officer and then stole his badge and kept it at home as a trophy - wow

    Capitol rioter from Buffalo charged for allegedly assaulting officer, burying badge in his backyard

    BUFFALO, N.Y. (WKBW) — The Department of Justice has unsealed charges against a Buffalo man who allegedly assaulted a DC police officer, hiding his badge in his backyard.

    FBI agents have identified Thomas Sibick of Buffalo as one of the rioters who allegedly participated in the attacks against MPD Officer Michael Fanone.

    FBI agents in Buffalo began interviewing a witness in January regarding any information relating to the attacks on the United States Capitol on January 6th.

    The witness told the FBI that Sibick allegedly posted a video of the riot to his Instagram account, and the witness then provided the video to agents.


    The video allegedly shows Sibick yelling, "just got tear-gassed, but we’re going, baby, we’re going! We’re pushing forward now!"
     
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    Rep. Loychik of Ohio proposes renaming an Ohio state park after Trump.


    Sen. Patrick Leahy, who will preside over Trump impeachment trial, back home after hospital trip

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    “This legislation is meant to honor the commitment and dedication that our 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, bestowed upon the great people of Trumbull County. I witnessed the unprecedented and astounding support that President Trump received from constituents across the 63rd District and on Mosquito Lake State Park.

    This enthusiasm for our former president was also historic throughout the state of Ohio last November as he pushed for initiatives and policies that was very well-received with my constituency and the state. I will soon be introducing this bill to recognize the triumphs Trump brought over the last four years to this great nation and the Buckeye state.

    I have more exciting news to come on this initiative, stay tuned!”

    Rep. Mike Loychik"
     
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