Just Curious: if you are a christian and masturbate

# 1.youneedta--whip it--whip it real good!

#2. If we weren't capable of it--it wouldn't have been made available. If we weren't supposed to-it wouldn't have been made available.

#3. See # 1

 

To be fair, it always seemed strange to me that the bible consists of two testaments but the only sermons I have ever heard have been drawn from the new testament. The only time I have ever been introduced to the old testament was at school and I am not sure the subject (class) concerned was actually a form of religious education, it may have just been a source of interesting stories or the teacher we had thought it was worthy of study.

The inclusion of the two in the same bible suggests that the body of writing relevant to a Christian is the combination of the two, perhaps on the understanding that, as the new testament is newer, if there there is a condradiction the new testament would prevail.

Sure, I understand it is the new testamant specifically that distinguished Christianity from the other Abrahamic religions but if the old testament is actually irrelevant to a Christian why not dispense with it?

 

Well I didn't read all of this, so I apologize if this has been postulated already.

I don't know if it is right or wrong, and there has been a lot said and done in God's name by man that I'm sure is abhorrent to Him.

I believe Christianity is the restoration of man to God through His Son. A working knowledge of Him, and a sincere attempt to emulate Him.

I ask you who do you think invented sex in the first place? It's for procreation for sure, but it's a picture of relationship and we're to have a full and abundant life in Him, I'm just sayin!!

The point of it is, none of us are perfect, how do you plan to be restored. The point is ALL imperfection is cover in knowing and living in/for Jesus.

Not my rule God's rules, great question Jen!!

 

I am very religious. My parents were very religious. When my father explained the facts of life to me at about 10 or 11, he mentioned masturbation and said it was a good thing. So I had a very positive intro to masturbation and when I got into it it was absolutely fantastic. I am 79 and have been doing it several times a day since. My better half thinks its great too. My thoughts are that God designed our bodies and our sexual parts. He designed our sexual parts to make babies so our species would continue and he designed our sexual parts to provide fantastic pleasure for us. Now, if we manipulate our sexual parts to give us fantastic pleasure, then how can God condemn us for that. We are using our sexual parts in one of the ways that he intended them to be used. The Catholic church believes that sex is only for procreation so if you use it for pleasure it's a sin. I don't agree with that but so be it. Please don't feel guilty - masturbation is really good for one to do.

 

And Dr. Oz says our health as well!!

 

My wife and I are practicing Christians / Catholics. That is how we met. I love watching porn and masturbating. I watch porn daily, and probably masturbate once every couple days or so.

I also drive a little over the speed limit most of the time. I've been renting my basement for 15+ years under the table. Yesterday in fact, I forgot to check out something at Walmart self check out but I didn't go back to pay for it. Despite these failures, I still consider myself a productive member of society and a law abiding citizen.

Know what I mean?

 

This thread has used the question to blast the bible, Christianity, and religion as a whole. All the OP asked was about masturbation and Christianity. Her being Catholic poses an issue within the belief of finding sexual pleasure outside the guidelines dictated by an interpretation that is unfounded. She felt guilty by doing it and wanted to know if others felt the same. What I never understood within the writings of either testament, both followed by the Christian faith, why it is perceived that God prohibits his creations from the pleasure he instilled in them. Why is it that we should feel bad for doing something that feels so good? I certainly don't. I lust after many women. Love it when I become erect because of it. Have sex outside my marriage. Watch others having sex through pornography or otherwise. Masturbate to my hearts content and even consume the offering my penis ejaculates. All because it feels good. Although I don't believe in everything Christian I do consider myself as such.

 

Great response Barry as usual.

I respect your position. Your argument is why would we be given something then be forbidden to use it (masturbation, sex). I'd like to point out an possible error in your logic. We're also given the ability to lie, cheat, steal, bully, murder, r*ape, torture. But those behaviors are clearly wrong, yet we still have the ability to act as such. So can masturbation and casual sex be lumped into that category? There are direct references in the bible that we are not to covet our neighbor's belongings and wife, we're not to murder. But there isn't anything about casual sex or masturbation. The Catholic position on masturbation is weak as best with no direct evidence provided to support their claims. In other words, this rule is loosely pieced together from layers of interpretation from various biblical resources scattered around the bible by a group of religious men who are just as flawed as you and I. Here is an extreme example. Remember that Adolf Hitler was a Catholic - baptised and confirmed. Yet he was somehow able to justify his actions. Although you could counter-argue that Europe secularised (separated Church from national affairs) 2-300 years before Hitler's rule starting somewhere in the early 1930s.

Regarding the Catholic church's position on masturbation, you could (try) to draw a parallel comparison to something that is easier to understand. This is how lawyers present arguments. The Catholic church prohibits taking a person's life. Should this rule be blindly followed or are there instances where taking another human life is justified? To use the aforementioned example, is it justified to take another human life to protect your free country from dictators like Hitler to allow your entire country or perhaps the free world to continue to freely practice their chosen religion. Was the USA justified in dropping two atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima to avoid what may have been a very extended and bloody land war on the Japanese mainland? This ended not only the Pacific War almost immediately, but also the European theatre of war. Perhaps this is an invalid comparison because masturbation is too small and personal of an issue when compared to taking a life. On the other hand, if you can justify taking a life and breaking a HARD and rule that is clearly spelled out in the bible, then where does that place the Catholic church's position on masturbation considering there is no direct evidence on it is actually forbidden in the same manner as taking a life?

Now that I'm in my late 40's, I've learned that laws, bylaws, rules, instructions from lawmakers / government, teachers / instructors / profs, Ikea, are really just guidelines. Before you follow any rule or law, you need to think about it's validity and make your own decisions based on logic and common sense.

 

I may ruffle some feathers here, not the intention other than exchanging opinions and points of view.

I grew up going to church until I stopped going as a preteen when my parents were not going anymore and left it to us siblings to decide if it was for us or not.
I increasingly felt bored and out of place there, the only thing I liked was the sermons I considered stories. Yet there never was any instance where sexuality was discussed in any way. That was done in the classroom when we were old enough but it was limited to the anatomy (crude, primitive sketches) and the mechanics of reproduction (the erection died away once ejaculation happened - suuuuure), menstruations, contraceptives.

As a result I never felt any shame about sexuality, I enjoyed playing with my frequent erections. The only embarrassment being discovered and having it visible in public.
I have to say my parents were not strict on the subject other than being considerate.

 

Now, if they could figure out how to make some tax free money on it and yet instill a bit of guilt, they'd be all over it. I remember an old priest once bellowing from the lectern how masturbation was a sin. You could hear a pin drop.

 

I was raised Catholic and since I was 13 I’ve masturbated but after the first time I tried not masturbating but it only lasted a couple days and I’d wake up with a rock hard erection with semen oozing out and I’d barely touch my penis and ejaculate with such force and when I was 18 and got drafted and six weeks into military boot I hadn’t had any place private to masturbate and didn’t have a wet dream because I would’ve gotten into big trouble but in the sixth week I was sent to battalion headquarters and there was a private head (toilet) down the hall so I went in locked the door unbuttoned my pants my cock was instantly rock hard and I started ejaculating without touching my cock five separate times seven or eight squirts of semen each time so why are we made like this we are sexual beings and are going to get an erection and ejaculate no matter what and if we don’t masturbate well feel frustrated and miserable after a couple of days

 

Who is the bigger "sinner", the one that masturbates, or the spouse that withholds sex? I'd venture the latter.
Once my parents (strong relive about family) had the talk with me, not once was masturbation brought up. The idea of an orgasm baffled me..... until one day I had one in the shower. Blew my mind, been doing it for 40+ years, and never once thought it was a sin. Our once hot vibrant sex life disappeared 4 years ago.....her choice, not mine. Now my hand is all I have left. Is it a bigger sin than cheating? NO! I won't cheat for religious, moral, and financial reasons. But....when the urge arises I'll take care of myself, my mental, and physical needs. Besides, my urologist said orgasms are important, whether with someone or alone for my physical health.

 

My doc of 20 years says, your best defense for a healthy prostate is to ejaculate daily. "Just following doctor's orders, honey...."

 

My doc didn't say daily, but suggested often. I've kept track (on my personal calendar) how often I do "it". It used to be upwards of 20+ times a month. The last several months it was only twice/mo. March I'm up to 4. We sleep In separate bedrooms and I keep lube and a towel under my bed. Trouble is my wife is a night owl, and all hell would break loose if she walked in on me masturbating. What an effing double standard. She won't put out, and gets pissed if I take care of myself. My birthday is next month.......think she'll put out ANYTHING? Ain't gonna happen. Fortunately she will be out of town for a few nights, and I can relax and break out a couple of my toys that haven't been used in months. Maybe I can make up for lost time!

 

I'd venture, really insist, you're spot on. Held this position for years. What's wrong with a man going out and getting some strange? Nothing if he's being cheated out of getting some familiar at home. What you might do is celebrate your birthday by getting some strange. When she's out of town you can go to town.

 

I use "strive for five" weekly.....well, for, uh, strictly health purposes, of course.

 

I predict that she'll get over her shit, finally come around and give you a nice sloppy blowjob for your birthday............AND maybe for Christmas............call me crazy, but these are unprecedented times.

 

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I also drive a little over the speed limit most of the time. I've been renting my basement for 15+ years under the table. Yesterday in fact, I forgot to check out something at Walmart self check out but I didn't go back to pay for it. Despite these failures, I still consider myself a productive member of society and a law abiding citizen.

Know what I mean?[/QUOTE]

tbh, you dishustme. you say u are a christian. u then say u drive over the speed limit. which is against the law. u then say u steal something from walmarts. u actively acknowledge u did not pay for it. u feel no regret orguilt. what irritates me most is tht u then call urself a fucking law abiding citizen. fuck off.

 

With all the uncountable celestial bodies extant, all the mysteries of life and death, the endless reach of space itself---a god is going to worry about a biological creature obtaining self pleasure through manipulation of a body part? Pffft--please!

 

Yes.