The Validity of Art

Discussion in 'Art' started by nocturna, Nov 6, 2004.

  1. nocturna

    nocturna Member

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    What do you think is the purpose of art in our society? Or any society for that matter.

    What is art for?
     
  2. NEMISIS

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    Aesthetics.
     
  3. hailtothekingbaby

    hailtothekingbaby Yowzers!

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    The purpose of art is to keep artists busy.

    No it's not. And I didn't even make that up myself, it was originally about archaeology and archaeologists.

    Now seriously:
    Art is for niceness and transcending boundaries both topographically and in people's minds.
     
  4. NEMISIS

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    It's the job of the Partisan
    to give work to the Artisan.
     
  5. logicalway

    logicalway Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I've never really been big into the art scene, but some of the folks I run with are painters, some design homes and some write and perform music...others are graphic artists by trade and some are videographers....

    I always thought that art is what comes out of someone's head because they just have to get it out or it'll drive them nuts.

    Sometimes what comes out is so off to others that it becomes art just because its never been done or thought of before...

    The validity of art is satisfying one's need to express. Sometimes the expression isn't very satisfying to others, and sometimes folks claim to be an artist to cover the fact that they're just lazy and have accomplished nothing in life but their irrelevant doodles.

    To each his/her own...
     
  6. nitemarehippygirl

    nitemarehippygirl Senior Member

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    art, like music, is the how we express those thoughts and emotions that otherwise would be completely incommunicable. i think it's what keeps us from going crazy; from the beginning of time we've developed art and music.
     
  7. logicalway

    logicalway Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Indeed. I think everyone has an internal rhythm, melody, message or project that goes on inside their heads that nobody else ever knows about until its put on paper, tape or spoken or built.

    It feels really good when someone asks you, "Why'd you do that" or "what the hell is wrong with you for building that?"...and you just say, "I had to get it out of my head or I'd go nuts, now hand over your wallet so I can go buy a pizza or some cannoli...".

    Heh heh...art is just the wonder of the brain coming up with things in the hope that others will agree with your innermost ideas of the way things work or how to express them.

    So many forms of art come from mathematics such as the Fibonacci sequence, that I'm figuring theres some type of pattern that we recognize as fascinating...but chaos in art is equally as...
     
  8. logicalway

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    You're right. I've got to learn to be less long winded...


     
  9. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Art is mythic; art is myth. There is logic (logos) and there is myth (mythos). Logic is reason, everyday practical life. Myth is the art, the transcendent, the poetry of life (poetry in it's broadest sense). Without art and myth, you have an empty life, a shell of a society. In fact, society crumbles without it, like religion without humor. Look around our own world: our religous myths don't work in our modern world, but no new myths are there to really resound in the people. We still have art, but more and more it's just piles of garbage glued or welded together, or random, "abstract" art that makes no sense. Even art has lost it's power these days. Art properly done is a religious experience. Indeed, most art used to be religious in nature (in all cultures, not just Judeo-Christian). Art, much like religion, is what grounds our experience; it's what makes it WORTH experiencing.
     
  10. sleepy_ashes

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    Art is the product of people with too much time on their hands.

    OK that sounds rude, but it's true in many ways. The more advance a socitey gets, the more comfortable they get, they more comfortable they get the more time they have to reflect, the more time to reflect means more time to create. Look at any society, the more advanced they are, the more advanced and ornate and meaningful and detailed their art becomes.

    So what has brought people to throw their ideas on whatever medium they see fit? Hell if I know, but I sure am happy they have.
     
  11. FoxeyLady

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    art's purpose is to provoke the mind, and to get your feelings down somehow. art can be anything you want it to be
     
  12. JadeWarrior

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    animal cave art was either to honor the dead animals in some way or in the hope of securing favour with a god for good hunting seasons.. im no scholar but thas my idea..
    or maybe they were bored but i doubt it.. the aborigines for example always had a purpose for everything and respecting the land and animals that they fed upon was one reflected in that same spirit..

    these days art is to transmit an idea, or intention etc in some way other than spoken word.. yeh i hate adverts but somtimes its clever.. i luv this art much much moreso than film.. in this regard its one of the most intelligent and interlectual things we can do..

    i try in some small way to perpetuate this..
    what does this remind you of ?

    http://www.jwcl13731.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sunrise/AliengrindX.gif

    ok its not my thread so i butt out if u want sorry !
    or
    draw somthin n post it.. youre increasing your brain power true..
    no scribbles haha.. but thas your art i gess Respec !
    but pick a subject say speed and make a pic
    a representation of your own.. anyway u want ..but not a photo..
    if you want.. or more to the point if you can..
     
  13. jimmis_gypsy_eyes

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    art is many things put in one, i dont think u can put a true meaning to art, people have too many opinions on it
     
  14. Shiva Tech

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    It's purpose now is however you choose to use it, it is a tool for evolution or just entertainment, it's a very versatile tool.

    Originally i think it was part of the process of becoming conscious and the ability to imagine the future.
     
  15. ganja fairy

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    art is communication. it works through any or all of the six senses (the sixth being any kind of intuition not recognised in the scientific world).

    whether or not it is the purpose of art to help people feel connected, i think that is what art does.


    has anyone read the mission of art by alex grey?
     
  16. Green Shades

    Green Shades Beyond 355/113

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    Well, IMHO, it depends on the felllow doing art, what it's about it. There cannot be any general purpose of art. Otherwise it would be a well payed jod to run. Unfortunately it's just the contrary.

    Every artist has his very own intention with art. Maybe communication of feelings, maybe Agitprop, maybe spirituality, maybe entertainment. He choses. Of course those who said it's all about communication are completely right on the upper level for art is based on signs, on signals, on symbols. There is a whole science on its way to study this, it's called SEMIOTICS, Umberto Eco is one of the Semiotists. Art produces signs and symbols.

    But, what bothers me even more is:
    Art is actually living, its receptions shifts continuously.
     
  17. somethingwitty

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    What a loaded topic :) . One of the first philosophical questions. Discussed by everyone from Plato on, in those 2,000 years or so the debate still rages on.
     
  18. Green Shades

    Green Shades Beyond 355/113

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    Yes it does. But what do you think about it?
     
  19. Anavarius

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    Art is expression that people should starve to feed on.
    For me anyways.

    I guess art is the things that are in my mind and soul that
    people wouldn't fully understand in a converstation.

    Its kinda like that saying "Want me to draw it out for you?"

    Some people only get a glimpse of somebody's heart in art,
    whether it be a picture or music or whatever expression
    you choose to use.

    If you look closely in some artistic pieces, you will see a bit
    of the person who created it radiating somewhere within it......

    Unless you don't give a crap about the artist or their view.

    ;)
     
  20. logicalway

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    I couldn't have said it better..,
     

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