who is god

To see that everything is a manifestation of the Supreme Lord, yes, that is indeed clarity of perception. See, I cannot be God, because why would God incarnate into this world to experience suffering? Right now, I have been eating soup the past 3 days, and am experiencing great diarrehia. If I was God, I would have been wiser than to have done something like that.

 

i could be wrong but i think the original person that said something like "if you wanna see god, look in the mirror"... meant that god is everywhere and really we are one. we are all a part of "god" and god is everything.

 

God is not formless. To think that, is to call ourselves God. God is obviously neither all knowing nor perfect, if he has to take on a material body, and experience suffering. How can 'God' fall under the material illusion? You spit in God's face by calling people with mortal bodies 'God'.

 

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e·go
n. pl. e·gos

1. The self, especially as distinct from the world and other selves.
2. In psychoanalysis, the division of the psyche that is conscious, most immediately controls thought and behavior, and is most in touch with external reality.
3. .
   1. An exaggerated sense of self-importance; conceit.
   2. Appropriate pride in oneself; self-esteem.

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There's just something not quite right with that statement ...

Let go of false ego ... nothing standing in the way of self realization !!!
Let go of ego ... Realize the self
Let go of ego ... Realize the self

???

Is it possible to realize the self while letting go of it? Can one let go of the self and then realize the self after letting go of it?

A conundrum? Circular reasoning? A paradox?

Once we stop clinging to the notion of a self, there is nothing left but God !!! (this coming from someone who does not believe in God)

You can hate this notion all you want, hide from it, evade it ... but you can't hide from who you really are, even if you choose to ignore the truth. Isn't that the basis of ignorance ... to Ignore?

With loving-kindness and compassion,

Darrell

 

Who is saying God is formless?

Isn't a material body form?

Is the Universe formless?

Are galaxies formless?

Are solar systems formless?

Are stars and planets formless?

Are life forms formless?

Are rocks and plants formless?

Are molecules formless?

Are atoms formless?

Are quarks and leptons formless?

If God is in all things and God is all things, does that make God formless?

I've heard of a Gospel called the Gospel of Thomas where he says "Jesus said: “Split a piece of wood, I am there. Lift a stone, you will find me there.”"

How about Luke 17:20 & 21 ? "Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is within you.”"

With loving-kindness and compassion,

Darrell

PS: Ultimately the all is formless ...

 

You make a judgment about god, based on your own ideas about him.

The way I see it, there is no other way to know what pain is like but to feel it, no way to know what the color red looks like but to see it, no way to know what a symphony sounds like but to hear it. BEING the universe is God's way of knowing it. He manifests himself as the world so that he may know the world, both as experiencer and the experienced.

Darrel: your last two posts were very good, I agree.

 

What is the self? An eternal soul within a material body. I'm not sure what you mean by 'self' realization, but what I meant by false ego is our attachment to our identities. Now, that doesn't mean to destroy the ego, there is also the true ego, that knows its position.

It seems that a lot of people place a lot of importance on realization of the self, in terms of personality and who we are, but if that is self realization, what is the point? The realization will end when this body dies, so what I mean by self realization is to know your true position, an eternal soul within a material body.

 

That is the insane notion of "We are all God". So 'God' has to meditate to realize he is God again? That's insane. The fundamental ideas of God being all knowing is then ultimately false, if God becomes covered by illusion. This is an impersonalist idea, to think that God has no form. Even the christians would agree with that much, that God is a personality, although they don't seem to have a clue as to the nature and form of that Personality.

 

How do you know this? Have you seen God? Or just read it somewhere?

Also the logical sequence from a) God is formless, to b) therefore I am God is by no means very clear to me. I would have thought that if I believe God to be formless, yet clearly I have a form, it is not an obvious step to think that I must be God.

Try telling that to Christians!

Gosh, thats rude!!
But really just emotive rhetoric.

Aham Brahmasi.

 

So maybe those ideas are false.

Either way, I'm going to step out of this argument. You are a dualist, I'm a nondualist; that's a pretty fundamental difference. And your insults are not making me want to continue this discourse.

 

Please try using punctuation....:/

 

What if you said that God is not limited by form?
Would that be a more semantically correct way of describing God?

 

WHAT IS TRUTH
IS MINE THE SAME AS YOURS
IS YOURS RIGHT
AM I WRONG IN NOT BELIVEING YOURS
IS WHAT WHAT I BELIVE BECOME MY TRUTH
MUST I THINK AND BELIVE THERE IS AN ALMIGHTY OVER ME
IS THE AIR THE EARTH AND I GOD
IS GOD FROMLESS AND MY MIND AND BODY AS WELL AS YOURS AND ANY OBJECT?

its all the same answer
it is that only what i belive is my truth becomes my truth as well the same for you

think about it

 

There is more to truth than belief.

As a child, you did not have the foundation for more complex ideas that you do today. So, as a child, the truth that you were able to comprehend was incomplete. Not to say that it wasn't true in some way, but the fact is you lacked information to accurately defend your knowledge as the total truth. To see the truth you must acknowledge that you lack knowledge to accurately judge the total truth- you must instead have faith that the enough of the total truth will be revealed to you in time.

 

WHAT IS TRUTH
IS MINE THE SAME AS YOURS
IS YOURS RIGHT
AM I WRONG IN NOT BELIVEING YOURS
IS WHAT WHAT I BELIVE BECOME MY TRUTH
MUST I THINK AND BELIVE THERE IS AN ALMIGHTY OVER ME
IS THE AIR THE EARTH AND I GOD
IS GOD FROMLESS AND MY MIND AND BODY AS WELL AS YOURS AND ANY OBJECT?

its all the same answer
it is that only what i belive is my truth becomes my truth as well the same for you

think about it
sky lex

I'm with lex

 

Which is good. Everyone's where they gotta be.

 

Well, on that point........I'm with you.

 

whats up with all this picture changing, use the one with ice mountain or the cute baby instead.

 

Leave it to humans to demand an answer for our existense. We are here because of atoms combining together to form life. Nothing more nothing less.

 

Me too.