Sex offending - what the heck are people thinking?

I can’t agree with anything you said here. Ofcourse it’s the responsibility of a predator not to abuse. And it’s authorities responsibility to keep the predators, who continue to be predators, locked up, away from potential victims. Your boundaries seem pretty messed up to me with those statements alone.

It’s also their (authorities) responsibility to understand the dynamics of predators and of victims and to do something about the culture in which this kind of abuse happens. Like, for instance, not selling children’s underwear with sexual comments printed on them. Not allowing shops to sell children’s clothes that are clearly meant for adults, like a pair of high heeled red shoes to fit a four year old. Like, for instance, not allowing men dressed as parodies of female objects of sexual desire, into the classroom with pre-school children, reading them stories about how Tom was born a boy but felt like he was a girl… What you said about the teacher and her pupil. For me it’s not about the age so much as the fact that she is supposed to be a responsible and professional teacher. NOT a lover. It’s HER responsibility to NOT HAVE SEX WITH A PUPIL.

I understood this thread to be about paedophilia because a 16 year old girl had sex with a 14 year old boy and was put on the sex offender list for life. I just don’t think it counts as a serious sexual offence when they were both at a party, she was not his teacher and they were so close in age. I would say the same thing had it been a 16 year old boy being put on the sex offender list for life. It illustrates just how out of touch the authorities are when it comes to “crimes” of a sexual nature. Some paedophiles can be reformed, as is clear in that case. Those that cannot, or will not should be kept away from society.

And, lastly, I completely understand how a man or a woman could kill someone who sexually molested their child. And any parent who kills a predator of their children should not be penalised heavily, if at all, depending on the situation.

 

Yeah, the justice and care systems suck. They are most definitely out of touch with reality. Either that, or it’s done on purpose.

 

Can it get any worse, a school teacher,

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It’s nearly always someone the family trusts.

 

I know a man I will call Neville (not his real name). He was married with kids. He was not the greatest provider and had mental health issues. He only ever had work on market gardens, never made it to the shearing shed or firewood operations. So his family lived in poverty. About 19 years ago his Mrs found a new man and Neville was charged with paedophilia. A few months ago I saw him have a hug with his now adult daughter. A case of all forgiven or maybe not a paedophile to start with? Maybe they just wanted him out the way.

 

Should've been sentenced to public hanging.

 

Women who do that to the father, not to mention depriving their kids of their own father… they make my blood boil. Those women should be prosecuted if the kids come forward to say it was made up. Women like that should do TIME once the kids are old enough to look after themselves and to speak for themselves. GrrrR

 

Almost all all child murders start off this way and their have been hundreds over the years. In several cases their was no real of deliberate sexual abuse involved.
The most well known case in the UK was that of Holly and Jessica Wells, where their school keeper touched one of them wile dealing with a nose bleed and ended up killing both of them. Their is little doubt that he was attracted to young girls, but however you look at it, things should have never escalated to the point of murder.

Splitting hairs on what constitutes abuse, creates a very dangerous environment, both for the victims and those who are wrongly accused.

As I said earlier, cases where serious and sustained abuse are involved are a completely different issue.
Also, abuse does not always involve a sexual motive. Some people are just cruel and enjoy submitting others to physical or emotional pain.

 

I think that you are beginning to see how complex this situation is. Any father who has bathed or changed his daughters nappy could be accused by a vindictive partner.

 

Interesting how you started with I can’t agree with anything you said here - and then proceeded to agree on most points.

The part you complained about seems due to either misunderstanding or misrepresentation. But I can't accuse you of either since I haven't learned your tendencies.

Let's see if I can clarify. First, it should be obvious to everybody with breath that the authorities need to hold predators accountable for their predations. Agree?

(But there's a de-fund police campaign going on, the participants of which probably haven't thought this through)

Where we may disagree is that people used to do a better job of avoiding predators. Probably because situational awareness had been less taught by parents in recent times, in turn probably due to safety having been improved.

If we do disagree on that, then it's probably due to me having been around longer to be able to compare over a longer timespan.

 

That would be a deterrent to many!

And an easy suicide route for some.

 

What ARE you talking about??? He was a sexual predator who lured both those girls into his home. He is a psychopath and thank fuck he’s locked up.

 

Perhaps adults should be more careful who they have children with.

 

Perhaps you could actually clarify where I agreed with you. Secondly, what makes you think you’ve been around longer than me? What year were you born?

 

Nah. Make it painful. Slowly lower them down.

 

Maybe jerk a few fingernails off to make it more entertaining. Might be fun to see a prick that beat and killed a little one beg for mercy. I'm a believer in the Ellie Nessler form of retribution.

 

Long enough to have been warned by my mom to recognize and steer clear of possibly suspicion people, and experience her doing so when out walking. And witness people trying to entice me. Of course I taught my own and they were wary. And now I remind them to teach theirs - even though the threat level is much lower these days it only takes one incident to have a profound effect. It's never the victim's fault, but I prefer avoiding being the victim if possible. Kinda like the "who you have kids with" post you made above.

As for agreeing, feel free to review but I got the impression the only part you expressed a problem with has been covered. If there's more, I'm all ears.

 

You don’t seem to have any idea at all as to the dynamics of victims and predators. You also seem totally unaware of the endemic problem in regards to the sexual abuse of children. Perhaps you should think about commenting on subjects of which you actually have even a modicum of knowledge?

As I said before, and I can repeat it if you insist, I don’t agree with anything you stated in that post you seem to be under the impression I agreed with you in many respects.

Is your first language English?

And you still haven’t told me how old you are. My guess is I’ve been around a lot longer than you seem to think.

 

Fair enough. I never claimed expertise, I simply related my experience.

So that I (and other interested readers) can understand, if you will, what is your characterization of the dynamics of victims and predators?

Would you please brief us on the endemic problem in regards to the sexual abuse of children?

Maybe we can agree if I know what we're disagreeing about. English is indeed my first language, and I'm still working toward a command of it. Where were you when president John F. Kennedy was assassinated?

 

Impossible to forget.