The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. Flagme15

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    Another factor is the increasing population of Asian-Americans moving to Georgia.
     
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    $100 for the cheap seats.


    Trump, O’Reilly set to appear in Orlando today at Amway Center

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    "Tickets in Orlando started at $100, with VIP seats reportedly costing thousands more. But there appeared to be plenty of seats still available online, and by Sunday morning, prices for some tickets had dropped to as low as $40."
     
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    People are busy buying Christmas gifts and getting ready for the holidays-who wants to waste their money on garbage events like that? They just can’t stop trying to cash in on people’s stupidity. Looks like “the base” is shrinking though.
     
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    Were there any protesters at the rally? That's what we need.
     
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    Agreed. But then again- it would draw more attention, which is what “Orange juice-head” so badly wants. It could possibly play right into his hands and get his base fired back up and find purpose again.
     
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    And if you act now you get a free "I Survived the Insurrection" Tee-shirt...
     
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    They survived the peaceful insurrection (with cuts, bruises, concussions).
     
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    Trump said himself that the GOP wouldn't win another election if they were made open to everyone like the Democrats want.

    The overall percentage of what is considered the white, Christian, traditional-values populace has been declining steadily since the 1960's.

    Trump and some in the GOP want to return to the 1950's. It's so ingrained in them that more than a year after the 2020 election they are still spouting the stolen election narrative and running audits for an election they lost partly due to ignoring changing demographics.

    During the 2020 campaign, Trump was desperately trying to appeal to white suburban housewives by telling them that he fixed their dishwashers and saved their neighborhoods from being taken over by blacks.

    The GOP will eventually have to change its stance to accommodate the growing urban and suburban, multi-cultural demographics in places like GA, AZ, and TX, or they won't win elections.

    Trying to squelch the vote of an increasing percentage of the populace isn't going to be effective in the long run.
     
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    In spite of the voice of reason, it appears that the GOP is going to stick with Trump for the 2022 midterms and try to eke victories by promoting fringe candidates in the GOP primaries who support his stolen election narrative to uproot the more rational GOP incumbents like Kemp of GA who didn't (and couldn't) overturn the election for him. They will try to use whatever midterm wins they may achieve as a springboard to regain the White House with Trump in 2024.
     
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    This is the plan...
     
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    Well, trump won’t be able to have a social media presence since the internet didn’t exist.
     
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    That article was from May 2021.

    A Meadows email supports Miller's assertion about Trump wanting to use the National Guard to protect his protesters..


    Meadows Jan. 5 email indicated National Guard on standby to ‘protect pro Trump people,’ investigators say

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    "Mark Meadows indicated in a Jan. 5 email that the National Guard was on standby to “protect pro Trump people,” according to an email obtained by the House committee investigating the Capitol riot and described in a public document Sunday night.

    The context for the message is unclear, but it comes amid intense scrutiny of the Guard’s slow response to violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6 and conflicting timelines about their response from the Pentagon and National Guard leadership."
     
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    Meadows Jan. 5 email indicated National Guard on standby to ‘protect pro Trump people,’ investigators say

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    "In other messages described by the committee, Meadows appears to have asked members of Congress to help connect Trump with state lawmakers.

    “POTUS wants to chat with them,” Meadows said, according to documents obtained by the Jan. 6 committee and described publicly Sunday evening.

    The messages also describe numerous contacts with members of Congress about Trump’s efforts to recruit state lawmakers and encourage them to help overturn the election results. They also included questions about Meadows’ exchanges with members of Congress as they pressed him urgently to issue a statement telling rioters on Jan. 6 to exit the Capitol.

    Meadows’ attorney did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    The messages are the clearest insight yet into the conversations Trump was having with senior advisers in the chaotic months after his defeat in which he sought to cling to power in increasingly desperate ways. Though Meadows turned over thousands of text messages and emails, he has declined to sit for a deposition to discuss those messages, claiming he is barred by executive privilege. The committee and Meadows had reached a tentative agreement for him to come in for an interview, but the pact collapsed last week."
     
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    Can’t have it both ways, dude. They are both forms of communication.
     
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    'Increasingly desperate' is an accurate description. January 6 was 3 weeks after the Electoral College had voted and 2 weeks until Biden's inauguration.

    Yet Trump was still trying to have Pence and members of Congress send the electoral results back to state legislatures that would somehow overturn his losses. All of those changes would somehow go through the system within just two weeks in what he and his staff claimed would be Constitutional to keep him as president.

    Trump called Tommy Tuberville (the former football coach and Trump-endorsed newly elected U.S. senator) and others during the riot at the Capitol to ask how the impeding of the certification of the electoral votes was going while they were hiding for their lives.
     
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    Tuberville defends account of Trump call during Capitol riot

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    "Tuberville first revealed the call Wednesday, saying Trump mistakenly called Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) in an attempt to reach the first-term Alabamian.

    "[Lee] brought me the phone," Tuberville repeated Friday evening, after the Senate impeachment trial had wrapped up for the day. "It said 'White House' on it. I didn't know who it was. Answered it, it was the president. He said a few things. I said, 'Mr. president, they've taken the vice president out. They want me to get off the phone, I gotta go.' "

    Tuberville added that he's "probably the only guy in the world who hung up on the president of the United States."

    His account of the Jan. 6 call was challenged just hours earlier by Michael van der Veen, one of Trump's defense attorneys, who dismissed the call as "hearsay" that shouldn't count as evidence in the impeachment trial.

    Van der Veen's remarks came in response to a question from Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), who had asked if Trump's tweet attacking Pence at 2:24 p.m. on Jan. 6 — after Capitol security was breached and Pence was evacuated from the Senate floor — was an indication that Trump "was tolerant of the intimidation" of his vice president."
     
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    Meadows already transgressed Trump's claim of executive privilege by submitting the documents to Congress.

    Unlike people, documents can't be cross-examined to better convey the context.

    Meadows doesn't want to appear in person and answer questions likely because he doesn't want to implicate himself in possible civil and criminal litigation.
     
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    Chris Christie fired a fresh salvo at Trump, saying the events leading up to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot were 'driven from the top' by 'C-team players'

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    "Christie replied that the things that are being revealed now about the Jan. 6 riot were "driven from the top."

    "I mean, the president made it very clear that he did not want to concede the election, that he would not concede the election. And you got a bunch of people around him by the time we got to the end, with very few exceptions, that were C-team players, at best, on their best day," Christie said.

    The former governor added that these "C-team players" told former President Donald Trump what he wanted to hear.

    "There were plenty of people on the outside who were telling him this is over, and you need to concede. He didn't want to hear that," Christie said."
     
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