The Ukraine Crisis Part 1 The initial Battles

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  1. wyldwynd

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    I like the name Zelensky

    Zelen translates to green.. innocent

    and sky is beautiful to behold

    I mostly read headlines never the news article

    Cheerio carry on
     
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  2. wyldwynd

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    So could Putin just want his lover back ? As to reunite the USSR ?

    seems like a fair question
     
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  3. Captain Scarlet

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    Right :)
     
  4. Captain Scarlet

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    He is regarded as being a Stalinist and yes he wants basically all the former Warsaw Pact countries back within the "New Russian " Empire or the correct term The Russian Federation.

    There are 2 stumbling blocks here as I see ;

    1) Most of these countries are now part of the European Union and/or part of Nato . Which means as far as Nato is concerned if he tried to take one by force it would cause WW3 . This is because Article 5 of Nato would be triggered which means an attack on one member is treated as an attack on all and will be repulsed accordingly. Thats why and I can understand why people get frustrated of Putins aggression against Ukraine and Nato standing by and watching . Ukraine is not a full member of Nato and therefore not afforded the protection of Article 5 . Hence other measures like Economic Sanctions are used along with the supply of defensive weapons and Economic Aid .

    2) . Whilst a Capitalist Society as we have in the West does have its problems as regards greed and wealth etc . For most it is still preferable to an Authoritarian Controlled Communist Society whereby the selected few live in luxury and the rest of the population are kept poor by Western standards .Therefore many people would not want to go back to the old days of Communism if given the choice .
     
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  5. Captain Scarlet

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    I'm not saying it wont ever happen but China would be stupid to do that as most of its wealth and economic prosperity is made by trading with the West .

    Russia is nearly bankrupt with the Rouble, now Rubble worth less than 1 American penny/cent. It probably wouldnt be able to pay China for any aid .
     
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  6. wyldwynd

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    Yes exactly trying to cause an intentional gap between the elite wealthy and what would define the “poor folk”

    well as anyone knows you do not mess with the fabric of a culture which is defined of the spirit of living who have passion for more than a dollar bill
     
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    ^^^my post was for captain scarlet point number 2
     
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  8. Flagme15

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    I saw an interview with an ex KGB member. This person worked for the KGB about the same time as Putin. This person is not a fan of Putin, and said Putin was a mid level administrator.
     
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  9. Captain Scarlet

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    Todays UK Intelligence Bulletin

    Indicating a stagnation as far as the military campaign is going but highlighting the Humanitarian Catastrophe .

    I still think supplying those Polish Mig Jets could turn the tide more quickly as it would help the Ukrainians to set up their own No Fly Zone .

    According to US sources the Russians are struggling for Air Supremacy . If that is the case why let the Russians off the lead ?

    It wouldnt surprise me if these Polish Migs are being turned over to the Ukrainians now one by one so nobody notices lol .

    Things like this do happen :)



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  10. Captain Scarlet

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    So what your are saying lol . This guy is even worse than Putin? :)
     
  11. Flagme15

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    No, I didn’t mean it to come off that way. Just sayin that the interviewee was a spy, and didn’t like paper pushers.
     
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  12. Captain Scarlet

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    Probably a bit of Sour Grapes as well as Putin was a Colonel in the KGB .
     
  13. Flagme15

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    Just wondering if Putin will survive The Ides of March.
     
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    Probably never see her again...
     
  16. wyldwynd

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    I wonder who has the cloven hooves and the pitchfork that will claim that sacrifice
     
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    He looks constipated.
     
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  20. Captain Scarlet

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    Probably consigned to the Salt Mines :(
     
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