FOX News - fair and balanced

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  1. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

    TrudginAcrossTheTundra Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I agree, it's great to see the wide diversity of thought outside the mainstream. And yet it seems so easy to get caught up in the extremes. Some of these people's written opinions are beyond the realm of reality as they bounce off each other and amplify. Sometimes it makes people from both sides look like irrational maniacs.

    The fact that it's difficult to have a balanced discussion where the pros and cons of various proposals are recognized and addressed indicates that many people are brainwashed, locked into a stance, and have no intention of thinking things through.
     
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  2. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    I have noticed this... and it is disturbing to see in people who used to make sense.

    Is this another example of a decaying or decadent civilization?
     
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  3. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    I don't know. Maybe. Probably many factors combine. But a lot of it is due to cross-purposes.

    "Let's make everybody pay for this special interest program. It'll be good for the domain we're ruling."

    "How about no, let's focus on our written obligations and stop taking excess money to pay for your pet projects which enrichen your friends. That would be good for the domain you're ruling."

    We want different things. And it gets extreme. Jealousy for the rich is a factor. Wanting things to be easily affordable is another factor. But only those who look at both sides and get to the bottom of each side should be able to make the call. But it doesn't work that way. It's all about the reelection.


    The hyperbolic incessant nonsense I think has a lot to do with too much time on people's hands.
     
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  4. scratcho

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    I'd be interested in knowing "the personal enrichment dealings "of democrats.------I am in the extreme, for sure. I've gotten to where I can hardly read anything put out by Fox " news." And by the way--I've been around since 1939 and have listened to and watched republicans for decades. I don't like their politics, their always right wing stances on anything and everything and particularly their lying, exemplified by the latest revelations on the 2020 election and the denials of wanting to rid the government of SS, medicare and medicaid. They seem to vote against anything that will help the working class and for anything that helps further enrich the moneyed class .. I'm NOT going into the litany of commonly known objections to the ways in which they conduct themselves or for whom their fealty lies.
    Just like those for whom republicans represent the way government should be run---what I could list would not move a single opinion away from those for whom Trump, Desantis, et al ---figure they are just fine. Same with those posters here ( or anywhere) touting the "good qualities "of the aforementiond ( or anyone like them) will NEVER convince me that the authoritarian ,anti American , anti democratic actions shown day after day would be the way to go here.

    Don't get me wrong---this capitalistic monetary set up has been and is rigged with the rich in mind through and through in many ways, and I have observed and KNOW that the democrats are just as enamored of their cushy jobs as the republicans----BUT--they are consistently the party that is willing to share more of the riches of the country with common citizens than the republicans are.They also believe in safety nets for those that need them , voting made easier--not more difficult and for women to control their own healthcare--not the right wing government. Republicans show us who they are day after day after year after year--BELIEVE THEM.
     
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  5. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    If you like to buy gas, 2x4s, electrical wire, PVC pipe, anything to make stuff with, you'll understand. Or call sometime to do it for you. Even food now, and rent. It all depends on where you're coming from. I think that's typical of "middle class".
     
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  6. scratcho

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    If you can figure out how the capitalist system works to consumers benefit that doesn't include greed---more power to you.:)
     
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  7. Toker

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    I remember when all the networks were required to give equal time to opposing views. Does fox do that or just pretend? They fired all their moderate news anchors.

    Maybe fox news, its leaders and personalities are just greedy evil people who will do or say anything for money and followers.
     
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  8. Intrepid37

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    How old are you? Like 112?
     
  9. MollyCuddled

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    This was true until the 80s when Reagan repealed the fairness doctrine making news strictly for profit
     
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  10. Intrepid37

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    False. It was the FCC that repealed it.

    In 1985 the FCC admitted that it was an infringement of the right to freedom of speech enshrined in the First Amendment, and in 1987 it was formally repealed.

    It did retain the provision that required equal time for candidates in political elections, however.
     
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  11. MollyCuddled

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    Who appoints FCC commissioners, specifically the ones that repealed the fairness doctrine? I wonder why those specific people were appointed? It’s a weird coincidence that Reagan ran on a deregulation platform and massive deregulation happened at the time he was president.

    Do you think news should be for-profit? Do you think the repeal has worked well and we have a good news product?
     
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  12. scratcho

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    if the Fairness Doctrine were brought back--Fox "news " would have to be changed completely. You can now lie about everything and anybody with no requirement to broadcast an opposing or truthful view to lies that is the modus operandi of the Fox organization. :cool:
     
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  13. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    You feel disenfranchised? I get it. Capitalism favors those skilled in competition.
     
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  15. MollyCuddled

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    And the rich who can buy off legislators to tilt the rules in their favor.
     
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  16. Toker

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    My memories of Raygun include things like,
    "If it takes a bloodbath, lets get it over with," in reference to unarmed protesting students.

    Trickle down: How's that been working out for y'all? We all rich yet, 50 years later?
     
  17. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Teach your children well...
    to be good to others and valuable in society.
    To be respected enough to exert influence for good.
    To be generous and helpful, but not allow themselves to be pushed around.
     
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  18. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Reagan spent most of his life as a Democrat. My strongest memories from his era still hold true today, "We're at war with the most dangerous enemy that has ever faced mankind in his long climb from the swamp to the stars, and it's been said if we lose that war, and in so doing lose this way of freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening. Well I think it's time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that were intended for us by the Founding Fathers."

    "Trickle down" simply means that letting businesses thrive by not repressing them ends up creating jobs and spreading wealth.
     
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  20. scratcho

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    Quite a stretch to defend Reagan, the republicans, fox "news " , trickle down, etc,etc-----but obviously there are some for whom republican orthodoxy is golden. Damn shame, that.
     

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