why are bisexuals the ugly step-child of the LGBTQ community?

You are quite safe on HIP. We are a very supportive family.

 

I think you are right--it is prejudice and lack of understanding. For me, I know it isn't the last stop before fully gay; no matter how much gay porn I watch or how much I fantasize about cock or sex with men, I still find myself chubbing up more for girls than guys. I have not yet experienced prejudice, because mostly no one knows, but I would guess that females do not experience this societal prejudice. Because f'ing MEN always love bi women

 

Wow!! Very thorough and well thought out! Love pretty much all of your thoughts. I too have encouraged my wife to explore her lesbian side (which she admits she has) by bringing in another girl. Should be same for me with another guy, right??

 

I have always kissed both sexes as part of sex; it is so sexy. As a previous poster said many bisexual guys are not into kissing sadly, so yes a distinct difference in many cases between bi guys and gay guys.

For me sex without kissing is lacking; and when with a guy I find it so hot when he has his cock in me fucking and his tongue in my mouth. And even more hot and sexy in oral sex when you both cum and then share orally .....arousing enough to get you both hard again.....so sexy!

Simon

 

Sounds like you are truly Bisexual.

Some of us might try but probably remain primarily straight .

It's fantasy and talk at this point until a safe opportunity presents.

After that I guess I will know if I'm primarily straight or eager to explore some more.

 

If she has a fantasy about you with a guy you might have a chance.

If she doesn't it probably won't happen.

I think what's good for one is good for the other but if my wife wanted mfm no crossover just the third party (male) and I fucking her how would I like it.

I wanna suck cock and take it up the ass but I think she is more likely to try a girl than allow a guy to fuck us.

I think mfm could be hot but so long as a everyone knows how it's going down.

Mmf could be good if she really wanted to see me suck cock or get drilled but I don't think she does.

I don't think she would watch a guy suck me off or participate

I might step out and try on the sly.

 

For me, there is a big difference between "just sex" and sex with love and attraction. As a result, I don't like kissing just any guy or any woman. I have to like the person. I've had a few kisses pushed on me by a guy or woman. It wasn't horrible, but it did not take place out of mutual attraction.

My first sexual experience with a guy (which was my first sexual experience with anyone) was great. He seduced me during a massage. Up to that point, I thought I was totally straight because I had only fantasized about females. With this man I experienced a lot of close physical contact and an orgasm that felt like a massive volcano compared to my previous experiences with solo masturbation. Right after that we took a shower together and shared a naked embrace, but with no kissing. The next morning, we had a great discussion about something that had nothing to do with the intimate session we'd had the night before. That experience broke the ice for experiencing intimacy with others

Shortly after that, I started having sex with a nice woman in the rooming house where I lived. Kissing became a big part of that relationship.

The first really good kiss I had from a guy happened later in my life, right after a fellow camper helped me recover from the beginning stages of hypothermia outdoors in the Rocky Mountains. He was kind and patient in the way that he used his body to warm mine for a long time with night falling at the edge of warm spring pool in Colorado. After I finally stopped shivering, we kissed. He simply said, "That was nice". I agreed, and our embrace continued as we talked into the night.

I learned that nice people are nice people, no matter where they fit on the gender spectrum. I also learned that I need give and receive genuine affection in order to feel fulfilled in life.

 

I agree, mmf or mfm would be hot, as long as everyone involved has matching expectations.

My wife would definitely be much more interested in bringing in another girl than another guy. I'm pretty sure she hasn't had any fantasies of me with another guy, but I'm thinking maybe I can get her thinking that way if I'm lucky. We just got a strap-on that we haven't tried yet. I'll see how far we can go with that; we have discussed it for awhile, and she is willing to explore.

I know it's a long-shot, but perhaps once she sees me interacting with her "cock", it will stir something in her to get curious and to start to imagine me with the real thing.

She is open to this first step, so I figure it's worth a shot! Even if it doesn't advance past strap-on play, I think we will both have fun exploring the role-reversal experience!

 

I am sure that the BEST experience of all is when you find your FANTASY finally becoming a REALITY, and, then, having the REALITY far surpass ANY fantasy you might have enjoyed in the past.

That being said, I have long been disgusted by those unenlightened bigots who refer to bi men as "half fag".

I loathe and despise ANY sort of derogatory "label" directed towards ANYONE.

Stupid, thoughtless, and HIGHLY insensitive.......

"Live long and prosper"

 

I find even in a forum I look at it is quite snobbish when it Comes to guys being bi or Crossdressing where it’s more sexual than let’s say being called trans. Where then your a person. But why do I see thousands of trans women on chaturbate and Twitter making it about sexuality. I think I’m way past being bisexual and a crossdresser and have deep feelings of being treated like a fem. But oh no u can’t say trans because it’s a political statement now. Just spotting out here but yeah from straight. Gay and some trans communities bi and crossdressing guys get no respect. As Rodney dangerfield said. I get no respect.

 

I haven't experienced this, or I just wasn't told. I have been meeting gay/bi people for quite some time, but I have never been prejudiced. We enjoy it, that's the point!

 

I mean, I'm pan which isn't exactly the same, but no I do not experience this. I can't comment on anything other than my own experiences, but what I've noticed, is that most women who identify as bisexual or pansexual are also bi or panromantic. I'll date and fall in love with anyone: trans, cis, NB, man, woman, doesn't matter. The bi-identifying women I know are similar. They will date and love men or women.

However, the overwhelming of bisexual-idenitfying men I know tend to be bisexual and heteroromantic, meaning, they'll sleep with either men or women, but only date and love women. My guess is the prejudice you speak stems from there. Bi men are often seen as reaping the rewards of the queer community, while insulating themselves from the struggles in their heteronormative cocoon. The criticism may not be valid or fair, but I think that is the criticism.

Male love, vulnerability, and romance are unfortunately traits society doesn't want to see in men. It's unfortunate. But male affection has always been seen as weak for some reason, and male on male affection even more so. While it is easy to point the fingers at bi men, I think some of their hangups are actually a symptom of the larger issue of the way society views male affection. But that's a whole other discussion.

 

The few affectionate bi men I have met are so much fun to be around. Like me, they shed their conditioning early in life and never looked back.

 

I, and I suspect most Bisexuals, are blessed with the ability to "pass" as Straight in what is often a viciously homophobic world. Many of our Gay brethren aren't so fortunate, and can't convincingly "mask" who they are, and as a consequence over their lifetimes have been grievously traumatized by repeated indignities and persecution people like I know nothing about. If some of them are resentful of me as a result, I find that perfectly understandable, if misdirected (of course, "the Closet" is extremely toxic to one's sense of Self, and comes with it's own steep price to pay in terms of our mental health). I think it's incumbent upon all of us to meet one another wherever we are with an overabundance of grace, regardless of what arbitrary labels society imposes upon us.

 

Unfortunately, yes we do.

The negativity expressed by some within the LGBTQ community is surprising considering there are equal numbers of us to lesbian/gay.

 

That's sad. I think they should be as supportive of Bi people.

If you like both you like both. If you have a same sex hookup or enter a relationship openly disclosing this then they can choose to take it or leave it.

If you do hook up with some of the same sex and it's mutually agreeable then they learn you swing both ways then it seems they assumed you are strictly gay. Having sex with someone isn't a guarantee of a relationship ship , sexual preference or strictly making it a unique situation where you are only with that person.

 

I'm not big on generalizations like Bi being an ugly stepchild but even here where I like the community it seems like I see a few posts here and there that tell us that Bi and CD are less than the other alternates. Is it because we're not committed to one way or the other? I don't care what anyone else wants to do for thrills as long as they're not causing harm so in turn I don't want any judgements about what makes me feel good.
I'm Bi, sometimes I like to crossdress. That's who I am. I'm not hiding being gay and I'm not coming out just to please other gays looking for global support. I wouldn't be happy as a gay man. I'm very happy as a family man who can enjoy both women and men in bed (or wherever). I need pussy (women) and I need cock (men). I'm surprised everyone doesn't feel that way because BOTH are awesome.
I don't need approval for what turns me on and I sure don't need condemnation for what turns me on. Just do your thing and enjoy more people.
Should we start a revolution to encourage everyone to Just-Try-Bi?

 

I think it’s a perspective issue some gay men bisexual was a step for them to coming out as gay so I can see why they have negative views towards bisexuality. For them it may have felt like being half in the closet probably not a happy time.