Trump's been re-elected - now what?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by newo, Nov 7, 2024.

  1. newo

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  2. MeAgain

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    I was watching President Bill Clinton on Colbert yesterday and the interview clearly highlighted why the Democrats lost.

    Clinton was very soft spoken and articulate. He was rational and hopeful.
    He explained how much the Democrats have helped the nation and what good condition the economy is in, etc.

    But you had to actively listen to him.
    He didn't rant and rave, didn't attack others or make fun of them, didn't promote violence, didn't promote conspiracy theories, and didn't blame others for supposed wrongs.

    That isn't want the public wants, they want WWE table smashing, foaming at the mouth entertainment.
    And that's what Trump gave them.

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  3. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    That's exactly why things went the way they did! And yes, it is a revolution of sorts. Let's pray the new team can overcome the machine.
     
  4. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Bill is an old school Democrat, the good kind. The kind Trump was at the time, Elon was, RFKjr was, Tulsi was... That party got largely taken over by power hungry elitist kooks. They all say they didn't leave the Democrat party, the party left them. The democrat party machine has been attacking others, blaming them, and promoting conspiracy theories. They strive to dictate how to live every aspect of our lives. And not allow dissenting views. They claim the opposition is trying to "steal democracy" while they're stealing our freedoms. Enough people saw through it and expect better.
     
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    In what way is that 'disturbing' to you?
     
  6. newo

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    Now he intends to nominate the WWE's Linda McMahon as Secretary of Education and Dr. Mehmet Oz to lead the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).

    McMahon has little background in education, but did serve on Connecticut state's board of education from 2009 until 2010. She is the board chair of the pro-Trump think tank the America First Policy Institute, meaning her confirmation in the Republican-majority Senate is likely.

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    Dr. Oz has been criticized by experts for promoting what they called bad health advice about weight loss drugs and "miracle" cures, and suggesting malaria drugs as a cure for Covid-19 in the early days of the pandemic. Such drugs proved to be ineffective.

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    So who's next? It seems if you're loyal to Trump and have made a name for yourself you have a good shot at a cabinet pick. Who needs qualifications?
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    The fact that Linda McMahon "was interested in teaching" as a young woman ISN'T enough qualifications to be the Secretary of Education? Then,
    what is? (Plus, all she needs to do is fire everyone other than herself).
     
  8. newo

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    You are very confused. You are describing the Republicans.
    The Democrats aren't supported by the richest power hungry man in the world.

    The Republicans are the ones attacking gays, immigrants, women (several sexually), scientists, doctors, the media, TV personalities, the handicap, etc...not the Democrats.

    Conspiracy theories?
    LOL!
    Let's see, Hillary eats babies, public school teachers are performing sex change operations, Obama is a Muslim, the Italians interfered in our election, space lasers started the California fires, the Clintons murdered 50 people, Harris isn't a U.S. citizen, Joe Scarborough killed someone, the election was stolen, vaccines cause autism, wind turbines cause cancer, the Sandy Hook shootings were a hoax, on and on and on.

    The Dems dictate how to lead our lives? How? By telling people what they can and can't do with their body based on religious views? Not allowing local school boards to decide curriculum? Restricting voting? Banning books? Requiring religion to be proselytized in public schools? Telling us who we can marry?

    Not allowing dissenting views? You're here aren't you?
    And let's not forget Trump's attack on the media.
    Veteran news editor expects Trump 'to go after the press in every conceivable way'
    But you know all this. You know Trump is the one that lead an insurrection, not the Democrats, but you are willing to sell your soul for Donald Trump.

    Long live the king!
     
  10. newo

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    I found this article interesting, I put the link in the title and quoted a section of it.

    An upward spiral – how small acts of kindness and connection really can change the world, according to psychology research


    "Small acts of connection shift attitudes

    Numerous studies support the power of individual acts of connection to drive larger-scale change.

    For instance, researchers studying the political divide in the U.S. found that participants self-identifying as Democrats or Republicans “didn’t like” people in the other group largely due to negative assumptions about the other person’s morals. People also said they valued morals like fairness, respect, loyalty and a desire to prevent harm to others.

    I’m intentionally leaving out which political group preferred which traits – they all sound like positive attributes, don’t they? Even though participants thought they didn’t like each other based on politics, they also all valued traits that benefit relationships.

    One interpretation of these findings is that the more people demonstrate to each other, act by act, that they are loyal friends and community members who want to prevent harm to others, the more they might soften large-scale social and political disagreements."
     
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    Once upon a time there was JFK, then LBJ, then RMN, then GRF, then JEC, then RWR, then GHWB. then WJC, then GWB, then BHO, then D.T.Rump
     
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    It's official, Donald Trump is President again!! :tired::confounded:
     
  19. Piobaire

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    “Nothing mattered, in the end. Not the probable dementia, the unfathomable ignorance, the emotional incontinence; not, certainly, the shambling, hate-filled campaign, or the ludicrously unworkable anti-policies.
    The candidate out on bail in four jurisdictions, the convicted fraud artist, the adjudicated rapist and serial sexual predator, the habitual bankrupt, the stooge of Vladimir Putin, the man who tried to overturn the last election and all of his creepy retinue of crooks, ideologues and lunatics: Americans took a long look at all this and said, yes please.
    There is no sense in understating the depth of the disaster. This is a crisis like no other in our lifetimes. The government of the United States has been delivered into the hands of a gangster, whose sole purpose in running, besides staying out of jail, is to seek revenge on his enemies. The damage Donald Trump and his nihilist cronies can do – to America, but also to its democratic allies, and to the peace and security of the world – is incalculable. We are living in the time of Nero.
    The first six months will be a time of maximum peril. NATO must from this moment be considered effectively obsolete, without the American security guarantee that has always been its bedrock. We may see new incursions by Russia into Europe – the poor Ukrainians are probably done for, but now it is the Baltics and the Poles who must worry – before the Europeans have time to organize an alternative. China may also accelerate its Taiwanese ambitions.
    At home, Mr. Trump will be moving swiftly to consolidate his power. Some of this will be institutional – the replacement of tens of thousands of career civil servants with Trumpian loyalists. But some of it will be … atmospheric.
    At some point someone – a company whose chief executive has displeased him, a media critic who has gotten under his skin – will find themselves the subject of unwanted attention from the Trump administration. It might not be so crude as a police arrest. It might just be a little regulatory matter, a tax audit, something like that. They will seek the protection of the courts, and find it is not there.
    The judges are also Trump loyalists, perhaps, or too scared to confront him. Or they might issue a ruling, and find it has no effect – that the administration has called the basic bluff of liberal democracy: the idea that, in the crunch, people in power agree to be bound by the law, and by its instruments the courts, the same as everyone else. Then everyone will take their cue. Executives will line up to court him. Media organizations, the large ones anyway, will find reasons to be cheerful.
    Of course, in reality things will start to fall apart fairly quickly. The huge across-the-board tariffs he imposes will tank the world economy. The massive deficits, fueled by his ill-judged tax policies – he won’t replace the income tax, as he promised, but will fill it with holes – and monetized, at his direction, by the Federal Reserve, will ignite a new round of inflation.
    Most of all, the insane project of deporting 12 million undocumented immigrants – finding them, rounding them up and detaining them in hundreds of internment camps around the country, probably for years, before doing so – will consume his administration. But by then it will be too late.
    We should not count upon the majority of Americans coming to their senses in any event. They were not able to see Mr. Trump for what he was before: why should that change? Would they not, rather, be further coarsened by the experience of seeing their neighbours dragged off by the police, or the military, further steeled to the necessity of doing “tough things” to “restore order?”
    Some won’t, of course. But they will find in time that the democratic levers they might once have pulled to demand change are no longer attached to anything. There are still elections, but the rules have been altered: there are certain obstacles, certain disadvantages if you are not with the party of power. It will seem easier at first to try to change things from within. Then it will be easier not to change things.
    All of this will wash over Canada in various ways – some predictable, like the flood of refugees seeking escape from the camps; some less so, like the coarsening of our own politics, the debasement of morals and norms by politicians who have discovered there is no political price to be paid for it. And who will have the backing of their patron in Washington.
    All my life I have been an admirer of the United States and its people. But I am frightened of it now, and I am even more frightened of them.”

    Opinion: Trump’s election is a crisis like no other, not only for the U.S. but the world
     
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    YES!!!!!:):grinning:
     
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