does god exist?

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Does God Exist?

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  2. No

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  3. Not Sure

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  4. Yes, but she doesn't care about you

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  5. The question is meaningless

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  6. Yes, it's in everything

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  7. Other, please explain

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  8. Depends on your definition of God

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  1. Wally Pitcher

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    I think that belief in a god is an individual choice. It comes down to the ancient dichotomy of Faith versus Reason. I feel that which one is right or wrong is a personal choice and neither should be used to coerce the other to adhere to one or the other. We are now gathering evidence that Amino Acids can be manufactured in a laboratory, and space exploration has found asteroids with amino acids in the crust. Amino acids are the building blocks of life, from primitive autotrophs to higher forms of life.
     
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  2. straightma1e

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    Ask this question to those that feel there is a God or Gods and the answer will be yes. As for proof they will steer you to a document, the Bible, Torah, Qur'an, Vedas, or any other written supporting document, that says there is. Ask of one who does not believe their answer will be no. They have philosophical arguments, scientific perspectives, personal journeys, or satirical and fictional works to back them up. The real answer is this. No one knows for sure as either way there is no empirical evidence to support their argument.
     
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  3. Wraggo62

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    Absolutely not.
     
  4. miguel32

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    God is the beginning and the end! He is Creation, and the main creation is us, Humans! there are people
    that have more complex definition of God! but better to simplify so others have access to the knowledge
    in the bible! The Bible is one of the most widely distributed and studied texts in human history.
    if someone wants to seek their purpose in life, find certain answers, or just go for motivation,
    the bible is accessible here Ephesians 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us | King James Version (KJV) | Baixar o Aplicativo da Bíblia agora Christians are loving persons,
    and and most of the times will go that extra mile for anyone! don`t just quit the journey! don`t say its over!
     
  5. Eric!

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    Yes!
     
  6. ACVinegar

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    I guess we will all find out someday. In the meantime I'll play by His rules, just to be on the safe side.;)
     
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  8. wooleeheron

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    At three years old I decided that, God or no God, people are all full of crap. By five, it occurred to me that the mindless mob has always depended upon the kindness of strangers, so I conducted my own survey and confirmed they'd made even the stupid dictionary taboo, and nobody has ever actually graduated from Kindergarten. By fourteen, I had established that dualism is blatantly self-contradictory, the principle of the excluded middle is tautological, and the accepted English grammar is self-contradictory. Eventually, I found the truth, and discovered there is a God, but God doesn't make mistakes, and only talks to people who know how to listen. He prefers mother nature does most of the talking for him.

    Sadly, in the west, we've made agnosticism practically a crime, and elevated foam at the mouth atheists and fundamentalists on pedestals. They're both currently attempting to censor half of reality, because it doesn't agree with their traditions and, when the Tower of Babel falls, nobody will have pity on these bastards. They could not have dug their own graves deeper.
     
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  12. MeAgain

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    So if I come across a person who has faith that they can throw their baby out of a 50 story window and it will live...I shouldn't try and reason with them?
     
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    In my Asian culture, what we believe in was Animism. I am 30 now but when I was 18?, I fell off the belief because it felt like it was getting ridiculous as new shamans get chosen and some people just scam people for money during this time or predictions that were made we not right. Today, it's not that I fully believe in God, but I do believe that there is a higher up or (God). Sometimes there's things that I cannot explain like last year I be-friend someone whom I known as a customer for about 3 years and he was in a rough patch but there were a few things that happen.
    1) Something told me he was hungry and I literally made him some food and he appreciated it and asked how I knew he was hungry. I said, there were voices.
    2) Few things that he really needed and a morning I drove to his house and dropped off what he needed, I was in the process of messaging him since he wasn't home but he sent me a message about what he needed and I told him, I'm already at your house with it.
    3) I met all his kids. I had a dream at least I think it was a dream, when I woke up, I wrote it down on my phone that they will call me uncle, even though we aren't blood related at all. I was invited over for dinner and the kids said we are family and I am uncle now. I showed him and his ex wife now what I had on my phone saying that the kids would call me uncle.
    4) Things happened with his mental health and we separated for a while, but I was hurt by his actions and I will keep that information to myself at this time. But I asked God to take me away and he just told me to have some faith because he kept showing me images that we will be friends again and I know that's so hard to believe. We had to go through court to resolve the issues that happened and in the end, he took care of his mental health and got help and I'm not saying that we became friends again, but we're okay with each other even though we don't text or hang-out at all like we use to.

    So do I believe in God?
    I do and don't? I believe someones watching over me and I'm always greatful for that. It may not be with all other problems I have but, it gets me through.
     
  14. straightma1e

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    After reading your story I do believe you feel spiritual and don't submit to a god or higher being. Things around you speak to you in your mind but you are more perceptive than you give yourself credit for. Spirituality is what I call this. Spirituality isn't about a belief in a higher being, a God. Yes some people connect it to a god. But there's more to it than that.
     
  15. Tishomingo

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    For an alternative view of the "sin of Sodom", see Ezekiel 15:49-50:49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen." Do we really want this Commie librul messaging circulating in our public schools--from God, no less.?
     
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    I just added an actual poll. Make your selection and hope you don't get judged for it someday, somewhere...
     
  18. Tishomingo

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    Legally, and to avoid conflict, we have a right to believe any dumb ass,cockamamie things we want, regardless of how absurd. But some of those "personal choices" are downright dangerous. pointing that out does a public service, although I agree we shouldn't get coercive about it.

    And I don't see anything necessarily "dichotomous" about faith and reason. All of things we accept as "facts" necessarily are the result of bets we're making about the nature of material reality. I happen to trust my senses and reasoning ability, despite being aware that both are fallible. Oxford Prof.Neil Bostrom, and Prof. Brian Cox of the University of Manchester thinks we're living in a Matrix-style computer simulation, and far be it from me to say he's wrong (although the fact that Elon Musk agrees with him would be, to me, a few strikes against the idea. I'm betting he's wrong because the evidence seems weak and accepting it would, IMHO, make human existence meaningless. Besides, Some of Bostrom's physicist colleagues at Oxford, have presented evidence against it that I find compelling.https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.1701758 They argue that there's not enough particles in the universe to provide the computing power necessary for such a simulation. Good enough for me. Faith, which Luther called a "joyful bet" and I call risk-taking, is unavoidable in making sense of the thing we call reality.

    But only as a last resort. Where faith and reason seem pulling in opposite directions, I tend to give reason--or more broadly, "judgment", informed by personal experience, book larnin', and intuition--the benefit of the doubt. When in doubt, I tend to rely on rules of thumb::(1) Occam's razor, giving preference to the simplest explanation; (2) the conviction that extraordinary claims (Big Foot, Loch Ness Monster, miracles, walking dead people, virgin births, etc,. require extraordinary evidence, while only substantial evidence is required for ordinary claims; (3) I tend to respect the consensus of specialists in a field unless there's reason to think that somehow they're untrustworthy.
     
  19. soulcompromise

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    what i noticed is i know how to pray.

    when i pray the deafening whatever-it-is around me is completely silent.

    i don't presume to tell anyone anything about their own faith.

    what i also noticed is that i was laughing because i decided ariana grande literally arrived at the conclusion against all odds that god is a woman.

    i thought that was pretty intelligent and special.

    I am Muslim. I stop. It is Allah to whom I pray. When I do that everything falls quiet and I find truth in my own way.

    If I had to lead and endorse the way forward, leading to 'god' is the better endorsement.

    When I think about the behavior of those who wish to know god and faith or any other way of saying this, I trust that more than other things I could endorse.

    The other safety net is education. When you work at either, I believe you. That's what matters most. And when we believe in each other it is so powerful.
     
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