My anecdotal theory is that younger guys are trying to reproduce what they've seen in porn or movies. Basically, they think they need to have "moves" and focus too much on doing a routine they think they've developed, when all they're really doing is what they assume works rather than paying attention to what the woman likes. After a certain point, some of them finally realize they need to just start with the barebones basics of licking the clit just straight up and down and not try anything fancy, basically what you described. Long, steady licks bottom to top. Once they realize that works just fine, they start paying attention to the woman's reactions because they're not trapped in the tunnel vision of their own routine. That opens the door for them to be able to start straying off from a basic steady lick and develop real moves based on what actually works.
Well...I would suggest like most skills experience, repetition and multiple partners hones pussy licking skills. I would think a guy that has been licking pussy for over 60 years (me) with about 50 partners (me) at a rate of maybe 2-3 times a week (me) totally about 7,000 or so pussy licking orgasms (me) would hopefully be better than a younger less experienced guy. Just my opinion.
I think people here who are chalking it up to "experience" are conflating experience with confidence. Plenty of men waste away their lives, and moments of other's, eating pussy terribly. Doing something poorly over and over again gets you nowhere. But others hit a breakthrough and finally learn how to do it. And that's not inherently tied to habit or time spent doing it. A person could easily hit that breakthrough on their third time ever going down on a vulva if something forces them out of their own head and to pay close attention to their partner. Does that happen more often on someone's first few tries or after years of enduring the frustration of working so hard to lackluster results? Obviously the latter. So there we have something more-or-less in the spirit of "experience." However, what really gives older men who've reached that breakthrough their pizazz (so to speak) is the confidence of finally making a woman cum in earnest. Like, truly fucking cum. One begets the other but it's the confidence that makes the difference. Make no mistake about that.
One of the things I learned was that if you don't have confidence, you don't have anything. When it came to eating pussy, I had to quickly learn to be confident in my ability and equally confident that I was going to get better at it while learning the hard, stark, lesson that you can't please everyone... but you always give it you very best. I'll be 70 in a couple of weeks and I have confidence in my skills and ability to eat that thang and I have been eating at the Y since I was ten, so I don't lack in experience or experiences since I grew up in a "culture" that said you gotta lick it before you can stick it... and you'd better be good at it or everyone would find out that you aren't. Not good for one's rep to be known as someone who can't eat pussy right. A woman said, before we were about to have sex, "I hope that you really know how to eat a pussy because it's been a long time since I got ate good." and I said, "I don't know how to do anything else and you gotta know that I'm going to do the best I know how to do." She... went to sleep on me. Once I found her buttons, I pushed them and fucked with then in every way I could think of. Not a question of if I could make her cum; it was about me doing what I know how to do to make her keep cumming. She woke up after her little nap and said, "You're scary - don't even think about eating me again, okay?" and I just nodded. Confidence plus experience equals she took a nap that she didn't expect to take. If I fail, then I fail but not for a lack of trying.
But wouldn't you agree that feigned or forced confidence gets you nowhere? Because there's always that sliver of doubt in your head. You need to actually BE confident. And that only comes with being able to do something well. The saying is "fake it until you make it," not "faking it helps you make it." Know what I mean? To be clear, I'm not trying to take on this whole thread in a massive debate and be contrarian. I genuinely agree with some of the spirit of what's been said. I just think the "do it long enough and you get the hang of it" talking point falls short of explaining what is the thing that happened that taught someone how to get the hang of it. There needs to be a lesson learned. Whether it's something someone stumbles upon or is explicitly taught. Maybe a stupid parable but I was terrible at basketball. Still am, honestly. LOL! Anyhoo... One time, after decades of just throwing fucking brick after brick after brick, a guy asked if he could show me some pointers and in two fucking sentences, told me two super simple pieces of advice that infinitely helped my jump shot. Someone could have told me those things when I was 12 and it would have been the same. The other 20 years I spent "practicing" without any guidance was meaningless. I needed to practice at doing it the right way. Practicing at blindly doing something wrong just reinforces your mistakes. I hope people get where I'm coming from with all this. Actually, I'll be honest, I feel compelled to push this point because cunnilingus is about pleasing a woman in the way SHE likes to be pleased. And while I don't know that anyone means it this way but a lot of what's been written is focusing too much on this idea of "older men do it better because we eat a shit ton of pussy and do it all the time and make women cum hard." There's a lot of comments that are pushing this concept that there's a fucking scoreboard. "I'm this old and I've sucked these many clits and make women cum this many times..." That's missing the point entirely because it completely removes the woman from the equation and brings it all back to the man and his male swagger/bravado, which to me, is the enemy of good cunnilingus. Listening to, watching and communicating with the woman you're doing it for -- and MOST importantly -- keeping the fact that you're doing it FOR her before anything else, and melding that together with one's swagger and confidence, is the only way to do it well. I'll stop being the whiny feminist bitch soon... Maybe...
You're either confident or you aren't. I know that those of us who eat at the Y can be given false confidence to be going down on someone and they're really faking the funk but telling you how good it was. The hardest lesson learned about eating pussy is that what works on one woman may or may not work on the next one... or it might not work again on the same woman. It's not easy to get a woman to tell you what you're doing wrong or what really feels good to her so, at best, you wind up fumbling around and hoping that you're doing it right for her and being confident also means sucking it up and asking her because it should be important to you that what you're doing is really pleasing her. It doesn't remove the woman from the equation since, um, you're not trying to eat pussy without her in the equation. Experience and experiences help to build confidence and, really, if you're not going to take a measure of pride in your work, what are you doing and why? Being confident means knowing that there will be times when going down on her is just going to irritate the shit out of her or maybe she gets off but not the way she really needs to and understanding that sometimes, it's not you - it's her and, again, some women aren't of a mind to tell you what's ruining the moment for her (even if it is you) so without any useful feedback, the woman puts herself in a "bad" spot: Leaving the guy trying to eat her pussy to his own devices and, well, that never goes well for a lot of guys. Obviously, not all older guys can lick it better and young or old guys never seem to get the hang of doing it, focusing on her specific things that will please her and not doing that porn star shit. How do you try to get good at it? You eat a lot of pussy and, if you can, a lot of different pussies. You take notes; you understand the female anatomy; you ask her questions that she might not want to answer, and you remain confident in your ability even when you fail to please her. Without confidence, you have nothing. This might be 'all about her' but if your head is in the wrong space, your "head game" won't be worth a damn. Big sigh. The word way back when I got my first taste of pussy was that if you wanted to get - and keep - a girlfriend, eat her pussy and eat it good and without exception because if you don't, someone else will be eating it and the reality being that it might not be another guy doing it. Ego plays into things because I know that I did not want to be that guy that all the girls and, later, women were talking about and not in a good way. Doesn't mean you get a big head or falsely being confident but if you know that women like/love to be eaten, then you dedicate yourself to learning all you can about doing it and, yeah, if you don't know how to follow directions, whew, you might be in trouble. And then, you'd better learn to accept and understand that if her head isn't in a good place about being eaten, nothing you do is going to please her until/unless you can get her head out of that bad place... and good luck with that. I know that any and every time I go to put my mouth on a pussy, I might not get it right but that doesn't ever mean that I'm not going to try and may the winds blow in my favor. If you don't love what you're doing for her, I don't know what to tell you other than maybe you need to learn how to love it then use that love to motivate you to do your level best every time you go down on a woman because at the end of any day, all you can do is the best you know how to do. Without confidence, you have nothing. I don't know how one would feign or force confidence; I know of the saying but I'm thinking that a lot of women would know that you're faking it and hoping to make it or that your heart really isn't into what you're doing and that isn't going to help matters and more so when she wants you to feast on her pussy like it's your favorite food of all time. This woman and I are about to get into it and she says, "You better eat this pussy real good!" and the "or else" wasn't spoken but heard just the same. I asked her, "What do I have to do to eat you real good?" and she said, "If you don't know how to eat pussy, I'm not gonna tell you!" Typical in my experiences and I know a few things about why this happens but, okay, you just left me to my own devices, and I am going to do my very best to make your pussy nice and happy. I have experience. I have confidence. I have knowledge. I love to eat pussy. Let me at it and let's see what I can do to make you feel like you just got hit by a bus. I may fail. I could leave you trying to remember how to speak. I promise nothing other than I'm going to do my best to please you. This is just me and I'd not dare try to speak for other men. I'm an older guy. I've licked a lot of pussies and have gotten a lot of females to cum. Or not. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again if she'll let you.
I think we're very much in agreement. I just felt a lot of this was going unsaid. But on the subject of things heretofore left unsaid, you touched on a really good point even I failed to recall. One reason it takes guys a while to learn to drop the whole "I gotta do a routine and do these specific moves" bullshit is that it also takes age for women to develop the confidence to tell a guy what they should do, and be able to do it in a way that makes it part of the foreplay and dirty talk. Younger women will make their frustrations known but rarely in ways that offers the other person any tangible information aside from "you suck at that." Even when a woman says things like, "No, it's alright. I basically came," that just means they didn't cum and guys know it. So, I couldn't agree with you more that if all a woman says or the only way she reacts is negatively without a sexy "here, let me show you what I like..." nothing gets fixed because no one's learning anything. Nor is either person developing that confidence we both whole-heartedly agree is the most important factor in great sex for all involved. So, I hereby change my answer. The reason older guys are better in bed is because they've been fucking older women, who DO NOT fuck around and have also developed a sexual swagger and confidence of their own. They're not gonna just lie there and be like, "Boy I hope this guy does it well..."
"If you don't tell me what I'm doing wrong, I can't do it right." I don't know how many females I've said this to - including my current wife. "You gotta lick it before you can stick it!" does not ever mean just give her a few licks to get her wet; what that really means is eat that pussy until she's trying to get away from your tongue and mouth - and then, you don't let her escape. But it's a two-way street. If you know how you want your buttons pushed down there, if I haven't figured it out or can't, you're not going to hurt my feelings by telling me what you want done to your kitty. This is an instance where silence is not golden if you want your pussy eaten right...
Yes, you are right, younger guys just think to pleasure themselves and do not care too much to take care of their partners, but older guys know how to take care of a pussy to make her ready for a long time fucking, and even they try to make their partners cum before they cum. A pussy is worth more than anything, and the old guys pray it before fucking.
I agree with you, that is why the older guys do fantasy to get help from their imagination, it takes time, but ultimately they get hard to fuck.
I don't know about anyone else, but my dick has nothing to do with my head game. Maybe it'll get hard while I'm working that pussy over. Maybe it won't. If she wants to suck me while I eat her, I'm not going to tell her no but if that's on on her mind, fine, because this ain't really all about me and I have learned that if I don't eat that pussy right, I may not get another chance to get it right. I eat pussy... just to be eating it. Now, if she wants to be fucked, we can do that but if I pounce on her, slide those panties aside and get to doing what I love, I'm not doing it because I want to fuck her - I want to lose myself in her wetness, her heat, the way her whole pussy feels in my mouth, what she tastes like. I love it when my wife grabs my head and holds it against her pussy. I love women who love to have their pussies eaten. I tell my wife, "I can do this all day, every day..." because, um, I've had to do it time and time again over my lifetime. My former #2 poly wife called me out on this by saying, "Really? Prove it!" She made it through the first day. Barely. Halfway through day two she asked me, "Would you be upset if I don't want you to eat me right now?" and I said that I wouldn't be upset at all - I can only eat her if she wants to be eaten but I did say, "I told you I could do it all day, every day..." You want me to eat you? I will never tell you that I'm too busy to do it or I'm too tired - I might let you know if I'm not feeling well and I'm not going to eat you if I have a cold but other than that? If you want to be eaten, I'm not going to tell you that I won't do it. IMHO, this is one of the things that makes us old rug munchers 'better' at doing it.
First, I could eat pussy and ass all night long, If I fucked all night it would probably be my last. Some women enjoy having their pussy and ass eaten before ,during and after. Always happy to Oblige.
I'll break it down: More experience Better skills Better awareness Better endurance Most importantly, more desire to please. Young guys, this sounds like bad news for you. Worry not, in a few decades, you might be the top dog
We are not afraid to gobble up our creampies. Its desert after the main course You know a woman likes it when she puts her hands on your head and holds you there.