Tasers Are Torture.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jimbee68, Nov 11, 2025.

  1. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member HipForums Supporter

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    Tasers are used in the US and UK I know. And tasers are torture, esp. when used for pain compliance.

    Pain is very effective? Oh, thank you captain obvious. So is burning heretics and chopping off limbs.
     
  2. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    Tasers are used in the UK to subdue violent criminals, it causes them a lot less pain than being shot.
    As fa as I know, we do not throw them in the bonfire of chop their limbs off.
    Tasers would certainly be welcome in other parts of the world, where the punishment for theft is getting your hands chopped off and for rape getting other things chopped off. :D
     
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  3. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member HipForums Supporter

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    I'll just say this. People sometimes say the Supreme Court's opinions are never popular. But I tell people they uphold our rights and should be above politics. Their opinions should never be popular. Popular with either end of the political spectrum. And a police officer's job should never be easy. We'll be living in a police state when either of those things are true.
     
  4. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    Compared to the US, a police officers job is far more easy in the UK, because they support the law abiding citizens. The also do not carry guns.
    Guns are also unpopular among criminals, because carrying a gun carries up to 14 years behind bars, even if it is not loaded. Criminals get stopped by police regularly, so they don't risk it.
     
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  5. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member HipForums Supporter

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    But I forgot to add. If the police use tasers to save your life, or someone else's, I guess it might be justified (I'd have to think about that more though, and how that would work in every situation). But for pain compliance tasers are always unnecessary and wrong. Which is how police often use it, at least in my country.
     
  6. Jimbee68

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    Also, not to overpost. But I saw an episode of Cops about 20 years ago. Their taser episode. The police were walking around with their tasers out. They tased everyone in that episode, and they were walking around like that obviously because the producers of Cops asked them to do that.

    But it was getting more and more ridiculous, each time they used it. One man was in his apartment arguing with his girlfriend. The police asked him to stop, and he did. But he started up again a few minutes later when they were still there. So they came back to his room and tased him. He said that was a lot more painful than the thought it'd be, tasers. Another man they came up to and told him to put his hands behind his back. He said, now wait a minute. And so they tased him. He said that worse than being shot, like he was once.

    I don't know about tasing when absolutely necessary. In the US when life is in danger and they use their guns they are doing that. But what I just described now, pain compliance, is torture plain and simple. It is the definition of torture and always wrong.
     
  7. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member HipForums Supporter

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    when is the use of a taser considered justified in the u.s.?

    In the United States, the use of a Taser by law enforcement is considered justified when it is objectively reasonable based on the "totality of the circumstances" known to the officer at the time. As of 2025, courts and major department policies generally uphold Taser use in the following situations:

    1. Direct Physical Threats

    Taser deployment is most clearly justified when a suspect poses an immediate threat to the safety of officers or the public. This includes:

    Violent Resistance: When a subject is physically combative or attacking an officer.

    Preventing Self-Harm: To stop an individual from causing serious injury to themselves.

    Armed Suspects: When a suspect is armed with a non-lethal weapon and refuses to comply with lawful commands.

    2. Active Resistance to Lawful Arrest

    Federal courts distinguish between "active" and "passive" resistance:

    Active Resistance: Justified when a suspect is physically struggling, tensing up to avoid handcuffs, or attempting to flee from a serious crime.

    Passive Resistance: Generally not a justification for Taser use. Non-compliance (e.g., refusing to move or merely "going limp") is often viewed as insufficient to justify the "intermediate" level of force a Taser provides.

    3. Exhaustion of Other Options

    Under standard use-of-force continuums, Tasers should be used only after:

    Verbal De-escalation: Commands have failed to secure compliance.

    Feasibility: Other lower-level physical restraints are deemed impractical or would present a greater danger to those involved.
    Legal and Operational Constraints (2025 Standards)

    Warning Requirement: When practicable, officers must provide a verbal warning before deploying a Taser to allow for voluntary compliance.

    Proportionality: The number of "cycles" or applications must be independently justified; once a subject is subdued or no longer a threat, additional shocks are considered excessive.

    Vulnerable Populations: Modern policies, such as those updated in late 2025, strongly advise against tasing elderly individuals, pregnant women, or children unless lethal force would otherwise be warranted.

    Totality of Circumstances: Following the 2025 Supreme Court ruling in Barnes v. Felix, courts must evaluate the entire chain of events leading up to the force, rather than just the "moment of threat".

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  8. Jimbee68

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    Speaking of things like pepper spray now. One time on the Bill O'Reilly show they showed a clip about protestors who refused to leave a building. They were all sitting calmly on the floor blocking the way. So a police officer came and took pepper spray he sprayed into a container and nonchalantly swabbed it on each of their eyes.
     
  9. Piney

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    Well the "billy club' has gone out of style so tasers are with us now.
     
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  10. TheGreatShoeScam

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    If your against it stop using their phony language.

    "Tased" is not a real word.

    I am against electrocuting too because I saw to many videos where they kept beating and electrocuting someone wile yelling "stop resisting". The person can't stop resisting because the rational mind is no longer in charge and the automatic self preservation part of the mind in charge of fighting to not die is.

    I don't think getting hit with billyclubs activates that reaction the way electrocution does.

    Hitting people with clubs is more civilized then electrocution IMO.
     
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