Should Convicts Recieve An Education While In Prison???

Well, should they? Also, if you were a Human Resource Manager and there was only one position available, who would you hire, from the below, for the job?

A) 18 year old prison educated male/female
B) 18 year old high school graduate male/female

or

A) 22 year old Technically Trained in Prison Male/Female?
B) 22 year old who paid for Technical School Training?

 

no, they should be electroshocked and beaten repeatedly so that will be meaner, immune to tasers, and stronger

that way they will be lean, mean crime-committing machines when they get out

 

Yes and whoever gave the best head

 

Yes.

I'd consider other factors.

 

they should be given a fat dose of lsd or psilocybin, like tim leary did... they had nearly a one percent return rate after that.....

 

They should be provided with materials necessary to train themselves.

 

No.


Like Chris Rock said, they should have a miserable fuckin' time in prison. It should be so bad they never wanna do anything that will send them back there again.

If they want an education, work for it like anyone else.

While they're in prison, they should be hating life. They should have no entertainment. They should have no education. They should be given the bare minimum of nutrition to stay healthy.

When they are to be released, they should be pointed in the direction of job training or education. The money currently spent on making them feel comfy in prison should be used to subsidize or give tax cuts to companies that will give them job training or jobs.

Society's problem is that people who go to prison don't have a shitty enough time there. That leads prison to become a rite-of-passage for criminal types, those who are actually proud to be criminals, who think of it as a legitimate way to be.

Make people terrified of going to prison, as they should be -- make the prison experience horrible -- and you'd see more people staying straight.

I am sick of society mollycoddling criminals.

-Jeffrey

 

The Bill of Rights
Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution

Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


Why don't yall just go back to lynching......or worse?
Neanderthals.

 

Prison is a lonnnnng-established institution in human civilization. It is what happens when someone commits a crime and society sees fit to punish him.

There is nothing "cruel and unusual" about keeping a person in a prison for the sentence he has been given to serve, and not providing things to make it an enjoyable stay.

Where does it say that the government must provide education and/or entertainment to prisoners in prison? Where does it say that the government has a responsibility to give prisoners an education while in prison?

Maybe if you could cite some court decisions that clearly outline what is or is not to be considered "cruel and unusual punishment"... But you seem to be trying to characterize PRISON as cruel and unusual punishment! Look prison is supposed to suck!! It's only in the last few decades that any social-engineer liberal-types decided to make prison all touch-feely and have it take on all sorts of rehabilitative responsibilities. But for the thousands of years prior to that, no one looked at prison like it was supposed to be some sort of "make-you-a-better-person" factory! It was supposed to be fuckin' PUNISHMENT. PURELY.

-Jeffrey

 

My Post was in reply to your Post...duhhhh.

It doesn't matter what happened billions of years ago.
What does matter is the US Constitution et al.


Have you considered seeking professional help?
That's prolly a real Good idea...


BTW don't you know One retains more when they do the research as compared to having it handed to them on a silver platter?
How did you get thru school?

 

Dude, fuck you.

I made a reasoned rebuttal to your post, and no only do you fail to say anything rational or factual to disprove what I've said, you start with personal attacks. Fuck you. You're clearly not equipped to have an intelligent discussion of this, so further effort is pointless.

You go on thinking, erroneously, that failure to provide cable t.v. and a GED program or a law library in prison is "cruel and unusual, unconstitutional punishment." Your understanding is a joke.

And when you make an assertion, like "it's cruel and unusual punishment," it's up to YOU to back it up. Trying to turn it around and make it seem like I'M being lazy for not looking up the stuff that proves YOUR argument is just pathetic.

-Jeffrey

 

I'll repeat myself as it appears you missed it the first time around:

"Have you considered seeking professional help?"
'That's a real damned Good idea...'

 

I would much rather see a criminal get an education and get training while in prison than just sit there hating the world, waiting to go back out into a world that gives them no breaks.

I would rather hire a person trained ANYWHERE than a high school graduate. other factors would have to come into play if I were to decide between someone trained in a school vs. prison.

Prison is their punishment, but I think they should be treated kindly, humanly, and with respect so that they can go back into society with a hopeful heart. They are already being taken away from family and friends, why not give them the ability to turn their life around?

 

What if they dont WANT to turn theur life around. As someone said before, there are some gangs and stuff that treat prison as a "rite of passage" and say that if you go to prison youre a really cool person. Prison should not be a fun or exciting place that you WANT to go to.

 

My friend is in jail right now... she is reciving education... But let me tell you she still F*ckin miserable and never want to go back there again (6 months to go total time 3 years) .... Now she has some training hopefully she has a fighting chance of a decent life when she gets out....

 

I hope for the best for your friend.

and in response to Goatman, if someone doesn't WANT to turn thier life around, chances are they won't be filing out any applications the minute they get out of jail.

 

Depends on what they were in jail for. I don't agree that pot should be illegal, so if they were in there for using/growing/dealing pot, I wouldn't have any problem hiring them (education or not). On the other hand, I don't think I'd hire someone who had a conviction for child molestation. Other offenses would be somewhere in between; I'd definitely consider other things too.

 

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Yes, I think they should. One of the main reasons for people becoming criminals is lack of education. I believe if you train someone to do something with their lives than they will be more inclined to make an honest living. If you leave people uneducated than they won't have the resources to better themselves; therefore how and why should they change?

 

I agree with you!!!

 

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Thank you