Socialism - A Con Game of the Economic Elite

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  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Since the topic of socialism has been of rampant discussion in recent days in this forum, I though I would post this. I am pretty much in total agreement with the writer.

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    http://www.newswithviews.com/Ohara/debbie27.htm


    SOCIALISM - A CON GAME OF THE ECONOMIC ELITE​



    By Debbie O'Hara
    August 17, 2004
    NewsWithViews.com

    America is being socialized and everyone knows it. Most people seem to grudgingly accept socialism as being inevitable, but is it really? What the average person has a hard time figuring out is why super rich people like the Kennedys, Fords, and Rockefellers promote socialism.[1] Aren't wealthy people supposed to be "greedy capitalists"? Don't they have a lot to lose in a socialist system? Isn't it a paradox that the rich would try to destroy "free enterprise" and promote socialism?

    In order to answer those questions we must understand what socialism is. The wealthy promoters of socialism have propagandized the masses into believing a different definition of socialism than what the term means in actual practice. While we have been led to believe that socialism is a "share-the-wealth" program, nothing could be further from the truth as Allen points out in his book "None Dare Call it Conspiracy" because the very rich like the Rockefellers, Fords and Kennedys have no intention of dividing up their own wealth with anyone. Their personal riches are protected in family trusts and tax-exempt foundations so that they pay little or nothing in taxes. These hypocrites talk about their concern for the downtrodden by promoting every socialist program imaginable in order to increase YOUR taxes. If these people really cared about the poor, shouldn't they be willing to set an example by giving away their own fortunes instead of yours?

    I don't doubt that there are wealthy people who have shared their wealth with others, but that doesn't explain the actions of the super rich like the Rockefellers, Fords and Kennedys who hold up altruistic motives for their socialist objectives while their actions betray them.[2]

    So if the goal of socialism isn't altruistic, then how does this system benefit the wealthy? To understand what attracts some of the super rich to socialism, we need to look not at the phony theory put out by the socialist promoters in America, but at socialist countries in action. As Allen points out, these are the Communist countries. Communists refer to their own countries as socialist because the goal of communism IS socialism. (How many people would still accept socialism as inevitable if they knew that it was the goal of communism?) When looking at the former Soviet Union, China, Cuba and many other nations we can see that socialism is really a small clique of a few elites at the top. These elites rule with an iron fist over the rest of the peoples in their country. This oligarchy controls all of the country's wealth, all of its production and even the very lives of its people. Socialism is not a share-the-wealth program at all, but a way for the very rich to be able to protect their own wealth and at the same time to be able to control yours!

    The goal of socialism is power. As Allen proves quite conclusively in his book, it is a con game to get people to surrender their freedom to an all-powerful, all-encompassing, collectivist government. Socialism is not a movement of the downtrodden masses like its promoters tell us, but a movement of the economic elite. So for the super rich to be promoting socialism is not a paradox at all because the real "greedy capitalists" are those at the top who espouse socialism! They are what we would call "monopoly capitalists". With free enterprise capitalism, everyone has the opportunity to accumulate his or her own wealth or capital. In a socialist system, the monopoly capitalists own and control all of a country's capital while the people who do all the work are not allowed to accumulate wealth for themselves.

    In our socialist system here in the United States, the wealth that we work so hard to create and are not allowed to accumulate is transferred to the government through various means. One means, of course, is taxes. Some taxes are out in the open like your income tax, property tax, excise tax, sales tax, etc. Then there is the deceitful and corrupt Federal Reserve System (it is not federal, has no reserves and is not a system) that creates a hidden tax called inflation, which is the most insidious tax of them all. www.wealth4freedom.com/creature.htm. It is through this corrupt system that most of our wealth is confiscated. The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the government like most people think, but a cartel of rich bankers in league with government in order to protect their own interests.[3]

    A large portion of the wealth that is collected from the people in a socialist system goes to finance the goals of the power elite. You can see this in action in the United States. For many years now the power elite has had control of the mainstream media, entertainment, education, our government and much more. They buy politicians and special interest groups with the money they have confiscated from us in order to help them push through their own devious agendas. Tyrannical judges are appointed to overturn the will of the people when politicians aren't able to accomplish the job.[4]

    Is there a way to stop this socialist nightmare? Until we realize that we as the individual citizens of this nation are the problem, there can be no solution. I know many "Christian conservatives": who vote for politicians and social programs that promise them "free" services. This is how the shysters who really run our government get us hooked into willingly supporting their sinister plans. Whether it's education, medical care, or a host of other things, we like the idea of getting something for "free". The problem is that we really know better. We know that nothing is free and that government has no money of its own. Government can spend only what it first confiscates from others. We allow evil leaders to take us down this path of destruction because of our own natures that desire that we get something without working for it. There is nothing moral, conservative, or Christian about living at the expense of others.

    The American people are living at the expense of their children and grandchildren who are virtually being sold into slavery as these future generations are being saddled with a monstrous debt that they will never be able to repay. When the system finally collapses bringing chaos and fear, who wins? The winners will be those at the top who have their own wealth protected in family trust funds and tax-exempt foundations. These elite few will gain the TOTAL control over our entire society that they have so long schemed for as the people cry to them for help, willing to give up their precious freedoms for "security". Of course history shows us that people who have no liberty have no say about their security either. They instead become pawns in the hands of tyrannical government.

    With our addiction to government handouts, it won't be easy to alter the destructive course of our nation. Both of our major political parties are controlled by "big money" and promote socialism, yet we keep hearing how we "can't win" unless we vote for one of the major parties. I'm here to say that there is NO possible way of winning unless we are willing to step outside the box and vote for someone who believes in our God-given responsibilities as individuals. Our country's two-party political system is a giant hoax being played out upon the American public in order to rob us of our freedom.
     
  2. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    I'm here to say that there is NO possible way of winning unless we are willing to step outside the box and vote for someone who believes in our God-given responsibilities as individuals. Our country's two-party political system is a giant hoax being played out upon the American public in order to rob us of our freedom.


    So who does she, and you, wish people to vote for?
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Balbus -- I encourage people to vote outside of the two-party system. I voted Libertarian in November.

    It's rather ironic that I was criticised in the other thread for being "a nut" and "not knowing what I'm talking about" (according to all the self-proclaimed 15-18 yr. old hippy socialists), yet when I provide a clear and concise argument against socialism, none of these people who have claimed to know so much about socialism can refute this argument. If this wasn't the case, people would have responded to this thread by now. Instead, they're ignoring it because they know there is nothing that can be refuted. These people would rather continue on believing what they believe as it best promotes the image they want to present to their friends, who consider them "hip" and "revolutionary." These are the same uninformed idiots who will waste $25 on a Che Guevara t-shirt from Spencer's because they saw Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine (or whatever band he's with now) wearing one, thinking they're badass because they flaunt the image of a so-called "revolutionary."

    The fact is, socialism IS a tool of the elite, and everyone who subscribes to it has been mislead, naively thinking that they're "opposing capitalism," when they are in fact buying into a system that was also created by the banks to divert wealth (power) away from the people and place it into the hands of an elite few. Essentially, socialism is nothing more than a lie sold to the masses as something revolutionary, optimistically idealistic and to the benefit of the people in which it enslaves.
     
  4. jesuswasamonkey

    jesuswasamonkey Slightly Tipsy

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    Let me ask you something Balbus. Just answer these two questions, please don't give us some goofy runaround, simple answers will suffice.

    1) Why do some of the wealthiest people in the world promote socialism?

    2) Why do these extremely rich promoters of socialism have their money protected from taxes if they really believe in wealth redistribution?
     
  5. Diogenes

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    You know. You can't criticize socialism as an ideology by observing how things are in USA. It doesn't make any sense. What you preach there, serves only one small group of people..
     
  6. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    In reality nobody has an obligation to respond to your cutting and pasting of screeds from your favorite websites. Some of it is too crackpot to merit a response. We don't owe you an audience, and we particularly do not owe you a response to posts you into which you put no original thought.

    How can you talk about lies sold to the masses when you cut and paste articles written by someone you've never met and say "I am in total agreement"? You are the masses that people like Debbie O'Hara write for. They write, you copy and paste.
     
  7. Pikachu

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    Because the wealthiest people in the world aleady have so much money that no amount of tax increases can ever even dent them.

    But at the same time, some of the wealthiest people also promote Capitalism, and not a single Financial Planner or Investment Expert in the world ever support Socialism.

    Capitalism makes it much easier for the average person, even the poor, to attain wealth if they are smart with their money, where Socialism hinders it.
     

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