CNN is reporting that 14 people have been arrested in an FBI sweep of the people who took part in hacking operations under the group name Anonymous. Anonymous claimed credit for hacking into MasterCard, Visa and PayPal in what the group said was retaliation for the companies' cutting ties to the WikiLeaks website following the arrest of Julian Assange. http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/19/new.york.anonymous.warrants/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 Of course we can expect more of this from the Obama administration which only sees fit to defend the profits of corporations, rather than the rights of Americans to protest non-violently. These people are merely expressing their freedom of speech by attacking those who deny others such freedoms. And it seems the US government would rather silence these people, denying them their freedom of speech, treating them as criminals, or worse, terrorists. It is the US government and it's cozy relationship with huge corporations that should go on trial. I hope the case gets a lot of publicity as it will highlight how our government has failed to allow ANONYMOUS people to express themselves without fear of arrest and imprisonment. By continuing to treat protesters as criminals, our government loses its moral authority. By denying us our right to free speech they silence a whole generation who have now come understand that Big Brother is watching and taking notes and compiling lists of names of those to be silenced. They are afraid of the POWER of the people. They are witnessing one government after another confronting huge peaceful protests, usually with Government directed violence at the protesters failing to bring the masses under control. Instead the protests grow and turn violent in self-defense. The US government should thus beware that silencing peaceful protests will lead to more violent ones. I think the US will try to make examples out of these "Anonymous" even though most are probably just teenagers. They'll throw the book at them, for sure. And then there will be a response from the thousands of new recruits who will join in Anonymous actions. The government cannot win against the people. But they will try and it won't be pretty.
you do realise criminal activity is illegal right? that includes hacking and stealing stuff from a company that isnt yours. hacking and attacking is hardly an innocent expression.
This is sad. They knew the risks. Like Thomas Merton said... "Peace demands the most heroic labor and the most difficult sacrifice. It demands greater heroism than war. It demands greater fidelity to the truth and a much more perfect purity of conscience"
"Of course we can expect more of this from the Obama administration which only sees fit to defend the profits of corporations," You lose a lot of credibility when you make ridiculous blanket statements like this. I don't think you really give a rat's ass about these "poor innocent victims". You just wanted to make a sweeping indictment against ... somebody. And of course the government always makes a good target for bitching. Suppose these people had hacked into the Hipforums site, and wreaked havoc on it? Do you really expect anyone to believe you'd be defending them then?
I think these guys are just fucking up the internet for everybody and making little difference to anything, other than making the news more interesting.
I think they should start whacking companies instead of hacking them, with a sharp stick in their anuses. See how well they float on the stock market then.
It really suck to see this happen but I kind of agree w/ McLeod's 2nd post. Something isn't right w/ the way Anonnymous is handling things. What damning evidence against any of these big companies have the unearthed?
No, it's not. It's called CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. Look it up and learn something. You are not a commodity, people who protest are not criminals. Get your facts straight.
You too don't know what you're talking about. For a Granny you seem to have a very short memory. Civil disobedience is everyone's right, as is revolution when government no longer serves the people. Fascism is a FUCKING CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. You don't like what I say, you're welcome to find another website that "agrees with you". BTW, getting personal with the webmaster won't win you brownie points around here. Stick to the subject of the thread, no personal attacks. Read the forum guidelines. P.S. You don't know me, nor my motivations so don't assume.
I just spent the night trying to persuade Stony Stratford to take their pro-smoking in public spaces protest indoors, apparently if they protest outdoors they are not really breaking the law, oh alright we'll let you off this time... but indoors is totally out of the question. It's been interesting to see their reaction. I'm causing quite an stir amongst inner circles there. I've even dreamt up a parody group of them based on the fictional Royston Vasey. Be nice if they took the protest indoors though, somehow I don't think they've got the balls.
That could be the case. So far the news reports that I've seen don't make them even seem like hackers.
More arrests, eh? We are at war until our allies are free. You're making me smile, Skip, I like the way things are going, though of course I feel sorry for those in the firing line. I like how you seem to grit your teeth more and more with every thread of news that comes through. We are everyone and noone, we are legion, we do not forgive, we do not forget. WE ARE Anonymous. Expect us.
I love both your quote here, AND your Allen Ginsberg quote- Allen Ginsberg is one of my heroes!:2thumbsup:
You misunderstand what "civil disobedience" means. Breaking and entering and destroying the property of others is not "civil disobedience". It's criminal activity. Study the actions of Martin Luther King if you want to understand with civil disobedience means. And you don't "have a right" to break the law. You have a right to vote to change it.