I'm ordering a gram of 20x since it's my first time. I don't intend to to try salvia though for a marijuana-like experience; I really want a deeper way of thinking and going into an alternate reality. Question is..is 20x even powerful enough to get me into that state or am I just going to feel relaxed? Note I'm gonna share the gram with 3 other people. So if any experienced salvia users who know what they're talking about can inform me what I'm about to experience with a 20x extract that'd be great. Also, how many puffs out of a bong/pipe for each of us to get the desired effects?
I would even suggest going with a 10x for your first time. If you can get standardized extract i don't see any point going for the 20x, even non standardized can be potent at the 10x level, but that's just my opinion. Either way if you read up and do it properly you probably aren't going to find any "deeper level of thinking" especially on that first trip because it's such a disillusioning alien place, 'thinking' seems meaningless. You very well may visit different dimensions though. If you are trying to go with the different way of thinking thing as well i recommend having a pen and paper on hand for right when you come out of it. I have had some deeper thinking thoughts but it's never quite the same as LSD and Mushrooms, and what i usually think is super hard to integrate into reality and my everyday life. You lose interesting thoughts/ideations/epiphanies very easily on salvia. Have a sitter and enjoy.
I smoked approx. 0.35-0.4g of 20x my first time on Sally D. The remnants of my postself ended up explaining to another person present at the time that I (my conscious self, presumably, not my physical self) had died, but that it was familiar, as I had died once before, and therefore had only understanding, an acknowledgment of the nonexistence of fear. In doing this I accomplished my goal of ingesting enough Salvinorin A that my self was annihilated. I don't feel that I'll ever need to try it again, but I'm grateful for the experience I had. If you're seeking out something to this effect, this quantity of 20x is near guaranteed to do it for you. I feel obligated to let you know that this particular intensity has only been rivaled by DMT for me. So, for what it's worth...
10x - 20x for first timers. especially if its your first psych. if you're an experienced tripper i say go balls to the wall with 60x-100x if they even still make that. just remember it is a very potent leaf!! an i recommend having sitter for 60x and above for your first time. things kinda get loopy. i havnt seen this in forever but there are websites out there that sell pure Salvinorin A powder. i wouldnt recommend this to any one really. it's just way to potent and kinda hard to dose.
I say it all depends on your personal experience and how well your mind can handle stressful situations. Tripping is very stressful on the brain. My first time was with 60x and it knocked me on my ass with overwhelming fear and paranoia and sub par ego death of "who am i, what am I, where am I, am i dead, whats happening, is the universe still here" kind of mentality, i never wanted to do it again. But i learned a hell of alot about myself and my actions during the trip and i have tripped maybe a dozen times in the past 2 years so my advice is only you know what your mind can take dude. 20 x should be good, just toke til your high usually 3 maybe 4th hit and you'll feel your body change then sit the piece down and VISUALIZE lol good luck man
