I tried about 25mg of 2ci last Friday to compare with the ~17 2ce I tried a few weeks ago. EDIT: I guess my experience was very atypical from comments below and from what I had heard. I must have either been sick unrelated to the 2ci, or maybe it doesn't mix well for me....or maybe I shouldn't have taken it in water on an empty stomach. I'm still a little scared to try it again, but I don't want to discourage anyone else because of my unusual experience. It really sucked for me. It was kind of malaise...nausea.... Vomiting, more nausea...malaise Visuals, but more confusion than any insight. I was really kind of surprised. 2ce was suck a better experience. I know they are different, but I didn't think one would be so positive and the other so negative. I know a lot of people say 2ci has no "mind trip" but I guess I just didn't believe it. But it really seemed almost like not tripping. I tried eating ginger to help with nausea, which usually helps me (even with cactus nausea), but it didn't seem to make a difference. I tried smoking herb when I finally got the energy to....which helped, but not much. Towards then end, during the comedown, it was a little bit nicer, but still more like poison than a friend. I don't know what to think. I took a much lower dose (maybe 12-15mg) of 2ci a long time ago and had a reasonable good time. It's funny because I'm going to a festival soon, and was thinking 2ci would be a fun thing to take based on reports and stuff, but that would have sucked being sick there! Anyway, I think I may stay away from the 2ci for a while. I'll give it another try sometime. I'm sure it won't go as bad next time.
honestly, that's the first negative personal account i've ever heard of i. from what i've heard my friends say, 2c-i is going to be the next 2c-b.
Ive never understood the detailed differences between E and I. Though, from what Ive read, I seems to be the favored
The differences are E is more neutral and visual and psychedelic whereas I is more of a pleasure psychedelic, with touches of an MDMA-esque feeling. I is much less visual and in my opinion 25mg isnt much, even at 50mg 2c-I was very easy on the mind, lots of giggles, slight visual morphing, good tracers, definite carpet and wall patterns though not very colorful, to me I is a real candy psychedelic for someone who just wants a good time with some slight visuals. I dont know how you had nausea and malaise though, I did have a very subtle but noticeable moodlift, and it caused no anxiety in me.
damn it. I can't decide if I should go with 2ce or 2ci, never experienced either. Was leaning towards i, but then when I see a thread like this its making me want to change my mind...
This is the first really negative report that I've heard of for 2c-i. I' ve shared with many friends and no one has vomitted. Some people get butterflys or feel a little wierd during comeup, but the peak/plateau are awesome. Just the right amount of energy, euphoria, and some visuals for concerts, parties, etc. depending on dose. I've had from 6mg to 27mg. Edit: Maybe it's the ~ before 25mg. Are you positive it was 2c-i? How accurately was it weighed? 10mg makes a big difference with this compound.
It seems very subjective, i know of a kid who took [edit...i accidentally said 390] 30 mg of 2c-i, and it was the catalyst for him ending up in a mental hospital.
2c-i makes everything seem "new" or "more important", and is more of a MINDSPACE, while 2c-e is more logical and "confused", being more of a MINDFUCK. i find that patterns stand out more on I then E, but E makes colours and music much more noticable. 2c-e and music go together almost as well as lsd and music
dude, try it yourself...it's all subjective. i have NEVER taken a chemical that i've liked and not had it enhance music. and i've liked almost every chemical i've taken...
I know what you're saying...they're both interesting to me, I'm just trying to decide which one would be a better first option
Haha, exactly. I would say 2c-i if you may use it more outside of your house. 2c-e if you're looking to explore your mind and shit in your own room. Can't go wrong with either, though. Just make sure to get a decent 0.001g scale. 10mg makes a biiiig difference with these kind of chems.
I guess my experience was very atypical. (I think I'll edit my original post to say that too so I don't turn anyone off because of my bad experience.) Maybe I was actually sick and it was a coincidence or something. (doubtful because I wasn't sick after or before taking it.) Or maybe it just doesn't mix well with me. I'm pretty sure it is good 2ci, since it was from a pretty good/well known source. A few more details: Took 25mg. (+/-2mg, using cheap .001g scale) Dissolved it in water and drank it on a very empty stomach. (maybe bad idea). (I remember a long time ago when I first started tripping, having a similar experience on LSD once where I threw up and was confused. That time I just guessed was because I was actually sick, since LSD was great for me all other times.) Maybe I just was quick to blame the i since it's an RC that I never tried before.
In general I is more euphoric, less confusing, and less visuals, and E being more trippy and what not? I think Ill look into some E
yea, i bought my 2c-e knowing that i'd sit on it for ever, since it seems like type of thing i'd only do a few times a year.
id suggest buying 2c-i in small amounts, and 2c-e for larger amounts, as 2c-i feels more "introductory' to phenethylamines
I think you have it wrong; it's I before E, except after C, so... Either 2C-E first, then 2C-I, because both E and I are after C, or... 2C-C first, then 2C-E, then 2C-I, because both 2C-E and 2C-I are after 2C-C, or... 2C-I first, then 2C-E, then 2C-C, because of the opposite of, "I before E, except after C;" which is, "E before I, except before C." Haha, I'm sadly sober, my current medicine was grown near cats and I'm super allergic so I've stopped medicating for now. In all reality that was fun to write but from what I have heard, isn't 2C-C better, gentler? The order I would personally go, understanding that I have unfortunately never had the experience of a hallucination, audio or visual, or entactogens, I've only reached the second or third plateau of disassociation via DXM, would be 2C-C, 2C-I, then 2C-E. Although I suppose it would depend on what you were looking for in the experience. I have PTSD so I want relaxing. What do you mean by introductory? To me that would imply it shows characteristics of other 2Cs but it is gentler and not as intense. Maybe that's why it's "I?" Wouldn't 2C-C be more introductory since it's more gentle?