I recently insufflated 10mg of 2c-e. The effects I got were different than what I had expected and I had a few questions on the subject. From what erowids told me, 10mg is suppose to be an intense trip. 2c-e is suppose to give a lot of color and pattern type effects but the main thing I got was melting/morphing/growing of object, and when i would sit in the dark a strange shadow would encompass the room. Is there a difference between the effects of insufflation and taking it orally? I have 15mg to work with, should I dissolve it in water or snort it again? Also, I've never tripped anything before until this 2c-e experience and I was wondering how 10mg of 2c-e would compare to say an acid or mushroom trip intensity and visual wise? thank you!
snorting 2CE burns badly... how did you do it, damn! i usually just put the powder in water and drink it, it works fine. eating 15mgs should be a pretty good trip. last night i broke the golden rule and i eyed out my dose.... bad idea... that was way too much for the setting i was in, and it took me by supprise. it was my first slightly bad trip ever, though it wasnt all bad, but i wasnt expecting such a heavy trip, twas a great trip none the less!
Yeah 2c-e for me even insufflated is alot like what you described it to be. Active beyond a doubt but way different than erowid would leave me to think, on most parts.
according to erowid 10mg snorted is a heavy dose, but i didnt get the colors/patterns a lot of people report, just wondering what could be the reaon. also a friend of my dissolved 10mg in water and he said it had no effect. any ideas?
I have eatten 30 mg of it and was still not tripping near as hard as erowid would lead me to think I should have. (But I did projectile vomit maybe that has something to do with it). My 2c-e was a good batch and everything and everyone else said it was exactly like erowid says. For me it was like 2c-e lite though.
Sounds like you might have some that's less than 100% pure. Up your dosages SLIGHTLY next time, and keep doing that 'til you find the sweet spot. And beware of snorting 2C compounds; they work just fine orally and you don't want to add to your risk.
I just figure snorting it would give me a little more bang for my buck, i have 15mg left and dont want to waste it on a mediocre trip orally if i could have a heavy trip up the ol nose.
15ms snorted is a very intense trip, to put it mildly. At least if the shit is pure, did your 2c-e come from Canada by any chance? They have lsomething of a history with quality control issues
I wouldn't buy jack diddle shit from canada. My 2c-e was very pure from germany and worked wonders on everyone who used it and was active in me. just not what was expected from other reports.
Eat 35 mg's, if you don't feel as much as you want then your brain doesn't work with it or the purity is off, no way to really tell purity without GC/MS machine.
First: Phenethylamines tend to build up cross-tolerances; that means, that if you take phenethylamines regularly (this of course includes all kinds of methamphetamines, like e.g. MDMA, Methylone etc.), the effects of other phenethylamines will weaken too. And: it´s a strange phenomenon, that for almost 50% of all people, 2C-E insufflated is weaker than when taken orally. No one knows the reason for this yet (I even asked Sasha Shulgin for an answer, but he is as irritated about this phenomenon as I am!). But I´ve also heard reports from some people, that very high doses (> 75mg) of 2C-E taken orally surprisingly resulted in a weaker response. My interpretation: it is known, that some drugs, which are active in the brain, have a dose-response-curve, which is shaped like an upside-down "U". That means, if you exceed the ideal dose range, the receptors in the brain don´t know what to do with all that substance, are emptied almost immediately (or at least within minutes) and then can´t show any more activity for hours (or even days). So what you get is a short very extreme onset and then a long and boring nothing. And as insufflation normally needs much lower doses (because to kinetic is much better than when ingesting a substance), your brain has maybe been flooded with too much 2C-E at the same time. This of course also depends on the density of blood vessels in your nose, the current metabolic status of your body (incl. blood pressure, heartbeat rate, blood sugar, cholesterol level and so on). In medicine, the phenomenon described above is well known for L-Dopa in the treatment of the Parkinson desease (sometimes) or the Restless-Legs-Syndrom (very often). Too much Dopa is sth, the human brain simply can´t handle, so it gives up and almost completely ignores the substance. Maybe you should take half the dose for insufflation, or even one third or one quarter, and see what happens.
uuuhhh i dont know about all that, i will be honest im new to the research chem scene, however not to tripping, i was regularly getting lsd direct from the rainbow family { lol name dropping }. i managed to get my hands on some pure 2ce and i snorted 30mg. it was a lot and i knew it would be a lot. it was the hardest i have ever tripped, and i might add the fastest. wait i just read about the 50 percent, anyways ive done some reading, im getting pikhal, i guess what im really lookin for hear is a little guidance, information, someplace to shoot ideas off at. what i really what to know, you spoke to a shulgan? really? im skeptical, but you cant blame me its only natural.
First time I snorted this, it sucked. When I did snort > 20mg on one of my trips, it was the most wacked and fucked psychedelic experience I ever had of any drug. But for a lot of my friends, snorting it does nothing spectacular. I think the response curve might be real.
