I've recently aquired 100mgs of both substances and am not sure which to try first. Which would you recommend trying first? I'm looking for something more visual no substance I've ingested has given me good visuals (tried mushrooms, salvia, nbome, all numerous times). I've done research, I know 2ce is more visual but I've never messed with the 2c's and I know 2ci is often described as a better "begineer psychedelic" but I'd like to know what you all suggest. Also a dose of the substance you choose would be helpful. I want a dose strong enough for decent visuals and a good trip but nothing that will fuck my mind too hard. Any helps appreciated, thanks all. Peace&Love.
I don't have any experience with I and I've only done e once, but it sounds like you want to try e. The one time I tried it it was very visual and thats what I hear about it regularly. You don't particularly sound like a beginner, so i dont think you'll have much trouble with 2c-e. I think maybe 15-20mg is a good starting dose. That's just from hearsay though. I dont even know what dose i took.
Haaha, your spot on. I am leening towards E and not a begineer but not a psychonaut either. It's weird there's alot of good and bad experiances/effects written about both substances so I'm not exactly sure which to try first. Did you enjoy your trip?
Certainly. It was very weird and sort of mechanical feeling. Lots of red and blue hues. It was a long time ago now. Id like to try some more with accurate doses.
CI is a bit more euphoric for me. CE is more likely to make you vomit. I have felt sick on CE, but never CI. Although the sickness only happened the first two times. Every time since I don't feel sick, somehow my body got used to it. With CE the trip is longer and more in depth (for me at least). Meaning it's the type of psyc that makes me question things, I always end up pondering some deep question on CE. Both have given me strong visuals though. Dose is very dependent on you. Even a 1 or 2 mg difference can take you from a mild trip to a "my god" type trip. My personal preference is for CE, CI is nice though and should not be dismissed. I have tripped pretty hard off it as well.
never tried 2ci, but 2ce has been pretty visual for me. they are pretty strong for me at 18-20 mg, but that is also where it starts to "fuck with my head." which nbome chemical did you try? 25i and 25c both sound pretty visual, and i know shrooms are
Mushrooms, Salvia, or Nbome didn't give you good visuals? Huh? Hard to please... Neither of them will probably give you full on Hallucinating pink elephants type stuff (although I wouldn't be surprised if someone mentioned that happening on Salvia) but I find 2ce more visual than 2ci. The visuals are more intricate and full on with 2ce, I feel 2ci is an 'easier' trip overall but to be honest I've probably heard just as many if not more difficult trips resulting from 2ci as I have 2ce. 25 mgs 2ce should be a powerfully visual experience, the time distortion will be pretty significant but it's a trip that's fairly easy to flow with but it can create nausea.
I'm also surprised all those substances never gave you good visuals . . . increase dose I will also throw in my vote for 2ce, I found it highly visual, though 2ci was as well. Since you are no beginner I will say that if you really are looking for a balls to the walls experience with full field of overwhelming visuals, eat 50-60mg of 2ce. Have weed or ginger around for the nausea.
you might wanna try 20 or 25 mg first, which is still a strong dose. i've gotten full field visuals on 19 mg 2ce before. i'm sure it's nothing when compared to 50 or 60 mg, but that's really not a great starting dose for anyone. i started with 12 mg.
I would recommend starting out with 15-20mg as the dose, even 18mg can kick you down. When you feel more comfortable with the effects of either one, bump it up to 25-30+. I started out with a dose of 18mg and a hit of LSD my first time tripping and it was amazingly intense. After which, about 4-6 months later, I can usually take around (3-4 doses of 18mg, administered in vials distilled with vodka) and completely fly to other planets and venture through other dimensions I recommend some more in depth research on the chemicals to know some more of their effects, but unfocusedanakin was right, E will most likely make you a bit sick. I advise anyone who feels like they're going to vomit, on 2C's, to just do it and get it over with, as it intensifies the trip (for me and nearly all my friends at least). Hope this helps
E: ego crusher, big bodyload I: candy psychedelic but can be very speedy and cause anxiety at high doses
