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Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by newo, Jan 1, 2007.

  1. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    It's official: 3,000 American troops dead in Iraq. What a way to ring in the new year.
     
  2. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    Yeah, just found out a guy I knew from high school was the latest soldier killed :(
     
  3. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    No sympathy for the invaders.
     
  4. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    I don't agree with war, but I certainly don't celebrate death.
     
  5. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Just as irrational as a meat-eater worrying about animal death at a slaughterhouse where the animals walk in of their own free will.
     
  6. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Hey spooner, shove it up your ass.
     
  7. DancerAnnie

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    He's a Canadian...what does he know?
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Hate to break it to you folks, but far more than 3,000 soldiers have died. The official death toll only includes the number of soldiers who have been killed in Iraq directly following an attack. They don't include the thousands who have been sent out to Germany or other countries for medical treatment, who have later died from their injuries.

    So it's hard to say exactly how many Americans have died, but it's definitely well over 3,000. I mean WELL OVER 3,000.

    Let's not forget the tens of thousands who have come back from this war maimed, who will never be able to live a normal life again. Or those who will develop cancer in the coming years from exposure to depleted uranium.

    Also, let's not forget the tens of thousands of dead Iraqi men, women and children, or those who have to live amidst the aftermath this government has created.
     
  9. shaggie

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    I was going to post Rat's last statement. What he says is true about they way the bodies are counted. It's lower than how many have really died. I'm not sure where to get more accurate numbers.

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  10. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    So that makes it better, huh?
     
  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Makes what better?
     
  12. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    You said it like you were bursting our bubbles. Well, I'm sure not happy about even one death, so...you saying it the way you did was pretty condescending.
     
  13. guy

    guy Senior Member

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    people knew what they were getting when they voted bush in.

    at any rate i'm sure you'll find most people don't give a damn about "their troops".

    working for an organisation such as the armed services has risk, marching into other peoples countries, obeying illegal orders and committing war crimes carries risk too. the question is, do you find this risk acceptable, if you brought those dead back to life you'd find that they'd do it all over again strange as this may seem.

    the funniest thing in this grim comedy is that the people sending people to that risk are the people least willing to put themselves in that risky situation.
     
  14. paulfreespirit

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    sad but truely stated .....watched a documentary about the use of depleted uranium and its effects " very disturbing indeed " babies born deformed " cancers" land totally poisened for ever (so any food grown and eaten will surely give people cancer ) wars aye :( .
     
  15. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    Some of the people were in the military before all this shit happened and they're getting sent over to do something they didn't sign on to do. I've talked with many soldiers that said their oath was to protect OUR country, not Iraq...where most people don't want us there in the first place. They don't want to go AWOL and have their lives virtually ruined. They don't want to go to jail. So they grit their teeth and try to get through being over there. MOST of the soldiers don't want to be there doing it...but what is another option when you don't want your entire life ruined?
     
  16. PurpleGel

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    my buddy went AWOL. went to jail once or twice. now he's free. "dishonorary discharge" i think. he's fine, though. way better than dying.
     
  17. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    If he tries to get a job...it can and will affect whether he gets hired or not.
     
  18. guy

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    bush is wanting more troops to be sent to iraq

    the idea is that more troops will be able to handle the situation better - wrong.

    making "the troops" do exactly what they are doing already is only going to create more casualties. by my reckoning more troops (being just as ineffective) creates more opportunities to inflict further harm on them. the sniper or bomber is will be in candyland, before military movements will have been less frequent now they are all the time giving greater opportunity to the resistance..

    with a surge of troops, probably sent into major cities you effectively bottle more of your army into the same situation of withering sniper fire and roadside bombings. psyche of the resistance - "damn missed the humvee, oh well there be another one along in half an hour i'll just get that one instead". massing your troops can be a strength and a weakness an effective military leadership should understand when they are weak and when they are strong.

    a military leadership should also know when a battle/ war has been lost. they idea is to remove yourself from it tout de suite.
     
  19. newo

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    Also, more troops means more repression, leading to more resentment, leading to more resistance. Escalating the war in Vietnam didn't work and escalating this war won't work either, it will only lead to more casualties on both sides. It's time to initiate a gradual withdrawl from Iraq. If Iraq plunges into all-out chaos, then so be it. In a country rife with fanatics out to kill anyone of a different sect of the same religion, democracy is a fantasy.
     
  20. Gravity

    Gravity #winning

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    Wrong. 3,002.
     

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