4-aco-dmt & 2c-c

Has anyone tried this combo? Since both of these seem pretty tame I was thinking about tryin this out. I have ~80mg of 4-aco-dmt and only 40mg of 2c-c to split between me and my BF. I don't think taking 20mg of 2c-c on it's own will accomplish much. So i'm thinking about snorting the 4-aco-dmt (don't have anything for rectal administration as guerilla suggested ): ) then see where i'm at and drink the 20mg of 2c-c. Or should I start out the other way around?

 

Yeah, I think I am going to go with the 2C-C first seeing as it takes longer to kick in then go ahead with the 4-AcO-DMT. I found ONE report elsewhere saying that it makes a pretty good combo so I guess we will see! Expect a report later.

 

I had a pretty rough experience combining 4-aco and 2c-i but hopefully you will have a better time with the 2c-c. Definitely take the 2c-c first because it has a much longer come up time so if you really want to coincide the peaks and have the full effects of both, I'd drop the 4-aco 1.5-2hrs after the 2c-c.

The reason I didn't like the combo is because I am very prone to going far and deep with even moderate amounts of 4-aco (achieved my first ego death with only 30mg), while 2c-x's tend to keep my ego firmly grounded and I stay pretty much within my own mind even when I try to let go, just a few trippy thoughts scattered throughout. So to me, it felt like the 2 had kind of an anti-synergy and were fighting each other, the 4-aco trying to cut the tether and the 2c-i holding my ego in a death grip, with my mind in the center of the tug of war. It made for a very rough and uncomfortable 13 hours.

Every time I've combined 4-aco with something else I had a rough time, it's not a good cocktail ingredient for me. It pretty much wants my undivided attention and I end up getting my ass handed to me if I don't comply. Everyone's different though, that was just my experience.

Your sig pic looks so familiar but I can't place it...? Did you end up dosing yet?

 

seems like if you were going to do this combo, eating 40 mg 4acodmt and maybe snorting the 20 mg 2cc would make more sense.

her sig is of the show "xavier renegade angel"

 

18mg of 2c-e and 4-aco-dmt set me off very well. great combinations of visuals. best way i can put it was 2c-e gave me acidic visuals. runny twirly, and the 4-aco-dmt gave me more of a mushroom type with colors and trails. the results

runny colorful trails.

good time.

 

generally speaking phens + tryps are excellent combos. thats definately a low 2cc dose and even pretty mild from my readings about it. hopefully it will boost the 4-aco up a couple notches. don't you think tolerance may be an issue though if you tripped 4-aco-dmt yesterday too? best of luck and report it if you do dose!

 

So at 7:30 I took 20mg of 2C-C then headed over to my friends house. About 8:30 I started to feel the 2C-C, it was reminiscent of taking a heavy benzo dose body wise anyway. I wasn't sleepy, didn't have any visuals, just extremely relaxed and felt really good.

So 9:00 rolls around and I snort 27mg of my 4-aco-dmt. Decided to share with my friend, gave him 26mg and my BF took 27mg. I was expecting it to kick in really fast but it didn't. About 45min in I had very subtle effects from it. Faint black and white tracers and cevs. Pretty mediocre and ignorable.

After an hour and 30min or so passed I was getting pretty bored and decided to hook up the laptop to the stereo system and try to coax this shit into working with music and complete darkness. Layed on the floor, closed my eyes, and just let my mind wander. The music vibrating the floor felt amazing. I physically felt awesome. So relaxed and comfortable. I was completely devoid of emotion. No euphoria and still no prominent oevs, just existing with my mind like blank slate. I felt like I layed on the floor forever, just lost in the music and the nothingness inside my head.

Finally went outside for a change of scenery and started to get a little taste of some visuals. A faint diamond pattern over everything and shadow play at the corner of my eyes. I didn't feel much like talking and just sat staring at a dark pine tree that stood out harshly amongst all the ashen leafless trees around it.

Came back in, broke out the glowsticks and made some glowstick art on the floor. It was pretty fun. Everyone just sat on the floor in silence and took turns making different stuff. Then the dog walked in and we started decorating the dog lol. My friend rigged up a bunch of them on a sombreo, I had some hanging off my ears and around my head, and my BF started wearing my snuggie backwards like a emperor's robe. We looked like a gang of weird circus freaks.





We floated in and out the house for the rest of the night. Things staying about the same. Feeling really spacey. This combo was a great music enhancer. I felt like I became the music, flowing around the room, rattling the floor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As2Df9TFwsI"]YouTube - Team Sleep - Ligeia

This trip was weird but enjoyable. Everything was so awesomely mediocre. It was kinda nice to feel nothing. Just to be some weird consciousness existing. Both of these substances are so tame and lethargic they really complemented each other. I will probably give 2C-C another shot in a higher dose but 4-aco-dmt isn't really my cup of tea. I like to be out there, I like to get fucking scared at how out there I am, I love that fleeting sense of fear that I will never come back. I want to push the envelope and see how far I can go. I like chems that aren't necessarily fun. Ones that show you the fucking truth whether you wanna see it or not. This is a great chem for people to get their feet wet in the psychedelic world but I feel like I have moved past novel substances like this.

 

I've snorted 30mg of 4-aco-dmt and got nothing, i took 20mg before this orally and it did 1000times more than snorted 4-aco.

I'd suggest not ever snorting it.

 

you might wanna try a higher oral dose before you dismiss 4acodmt. nasal administration may not increase potency as much as it does with 2cx.

sounds like you might like 2ce (from the bit you said about not always liking "fun" compounds, etc)

 

4-AcO-DMT is much more scary experience than any of my 2C ones, you clearly haven't dosed properly if you think it isn't one to get scared and overwhelmed on.

 

I took 25mg orally the first time and didn't trip and read in various places about snorting it, I think Shermin wrote something about it on here. Meh... Maybe I'll get some more and take 40-50mg of it but I don't want to keep wasting my money chasing a trip.

I do throughly enjoy 2C-E. I look forward to taking a larger dose of that. I find that I am partial to phenethylamines more so than most tryptamines. I do love DMT and DPT as well as a few others but my heart as of now has been stolen by Phens.

 

on 20-25mg at a festival completely overwhelmed me and floored me for 5 hours in an intense ego loss trip. usually 20-25mg wouldn't do that to me, this stuff can be crazy in different environments.

Also i found leaivng it on your tongue for about 1 min was much better than swallowing... just my experiences anyway.

 

Maybe my batch was just shit. It didn't look degraded and it came from an awesome source. Dunno! I'll place an order with a diff vendor and see how that goes.

 

when did you do dpt?

 

A couple weeks ago or so. As soon as I got my package that was the first one I broke into. Went inside, weighed me up a line and took the plunge. That stuff IS the truth right there.

 

just the opposite for me. 25mg oral of 4 aces is rather tame with me whereas the same dose snorted floors my ass.

 

4-aco-dmt and 2c-c sounds like an awesome combo.

Start out with the 4-aco-dmt and spice up the experience with some 2c-c (plugged of course)

That should be a pretty intense experience

 

Tell me how it goes. I've been meaning to read one of your reports but I haven't... haven't. For some reason I find TRs daunting to read... but I want to. Pot and adhd.

Anyway, good trippin. My only input would be maybe to take the aco after the 2cc peak just on the notion that your jumping off point to the aco would just be... the high dive. Instead of taking it pre-peak.. I mean that would give you a better combo trip I'm sure but if I were doing it I'd be more interested in using the 2c to give me a psychedelic fucking mind catapult into the 4-aco-experiance. In m opnion aco just has much more potential for vaster psychedelic exploration then any phenethylamine I've come across

 

prefers phentasy to truth eh? :toilet:

I haven't seen a thread from you regarding your dpt experience at all nor any discussion in the dpt threads. If that bunk 4-ac0 dmt trip got some comments I woulve thought dpt deserves something.

 

I had gotten caught up taking care of my grandpa with him having seizures and shit all the time and never got around to posting anything about it. I still have a bunch left but i'm saving it for when me and my bf can do it together. I really only got a taste of what the substance has to offer seeing as I didn't do a proper dose. I will post more afterwards. I can only imagine the full potential of it from that bit. So powerful!

As far as my affinity with Phens go, I guess I've just done shrooms so many times that they and substances similar in effect have lost 'the magic'. I was about 13 or so when I ate my first mushroom and it became a regular thing for me for a while. I will admit that I feel like I abused them in my adolescence. Plus my favorite two substances are speed and psychedelics so it's only natural that I would enjoy phens.