4-AcO-DMT 90 mg experiment *DO NOT ATTEMPT*

Just had to say that it was done since it was done. I didn't want it to be done but the plant was asking for it and wasn't satisfied with the previous experiment, which was an astounding 55 mg.

The plant has been fertilized with every type of opiate and synthetic known and has an amazing inhuman tolerance to everything and I didn't believe it but now I think I do.

It would seem that for this plant, 90 mg was what it needed, when most other plants need only 30-40 mg TOPS, which I think is phenomenal, but also maybe an outlyer.




Basically, I'm exhausted, it just happened, I will update more later, but 4-AcO-DMT sure equals spiritual awakening, even when not prepared...


It was hard to watch the plant as it endured and I was amazed to see it still thrive, eventually sleeping. It is finished.

 

u mad

 

hahahaha that's interesting cause from what I remember you had like a really bad time on 4 aco DMT when you broke your tooth - sounds like a trip

 

I just broke through yesterday on 55mg. Even though its cliche, words cant just not describe the feelings man... I know exactly how you feel and glad to see your plant made it to the other side any back in one piece.

 

I've read on bluelight of people being satisfied with 12-18 mg.. some must have a natural tolerance..

 

Satisfied and breaking through are a different thing entirely imo.

My first experience with 4-aco-dmt was 10-15mg and it was very intense, loved it, wasn't very active visually (a little but not a ton) but emotionally and physically it was great. Second time I did a similar amount, maybe 5mg more but I had a (tiny) bit of tolerance, was more visual (slightly) and much more introspective. The third time I did 30-35mg and it was a LOT more visual and introspective, a much more enjoyable experience all-round except for the anxiety before it hit me.

It's the same with mushrooms, I know people who take 1g every time they trip, sometimes 2g, and they're happy with that, but I also know people who refuse to do less than 5g every time. I don't think it's anything to do with a natural tolerance, I think it just depends how intense you want it to be, from what I hear 4-aco-dmt is very forgiving even at extremely high (as high as 100mg) doses, so people who wouldn't normally push their dosages with other psys/drugs can often do so with this.

I'll definitely be trying 50-100mg at some point, just not yet since I still have plenty to learn from 20-35mg doses.

 

You should've waited and posted the full report.

 

Haha, I will update today. It was not my plant, it was a friend's. I am very weary with using more than 30 mg because I never need that much for my purposes!

As I said, my friend's plant is basically immune to opiates so that is the reason of the monstrosity.




He slept it off and is doing OK now. I think the most important thing is that 90 mg was taken and there seemed to be no out of the ordinary 4-AcO-DMT problems (which include falling down, being KOd by standing up).

I'm glad I could be there for guidance because he did drop and almost hit his head on my desk once, about 2 or 3 hours in at the peak.

He was vocal to all of us at the beginning and somewhat aggressive because he is that way, but he kept himself pretty well under control, mostly because his brother was there, and he later about 4 hours in, stuck to talking to himself on the couch, having quite a conversation with himself and eventually his brother a little bit, he was laughing a lot for the beginning and after a long while maybe 4 hours in he became more tired and he cried a little bit which I thought was significant! More later.

 

Quasi Trip Report - my friend's plant: (Sorry for delay)

At 8:00 PM 90 mg was eyed, he wanted it, he was a fiend for everything. Previous experience at 55 mg did "nothing."


Background

He takes methadone, morphine, oxycontin, and heroin almost daily, eats all the benzos he can get, takes like 10 mg xanax in a bump, and basically wastes hundreds of dollars each day because of his tolerance, well I guess he is maintaining himself and his state of mind.

He broke a collar bone years ago so he has all the pain meds.

Maybe he had some natural immunity but I think it may have more to do with building up a resistance to absorption of chemicals, I imagine taking grams and grams of psychoactive chemicals every day might do this.

The jump from 55 to 90 mg seemed to break through (or take priority absorption or something) for him finally, although he probably would have been satisfied with 75 mg.

4-AcO-DMT is so sensitive, each mg, this is some powerful shit that KOs everyone.

It will put you there, I imagine like DPT but much more gently, especially because of the duration.

Anyways, his personality is aggressive asshole with some respect (not a dirty junkie though it may seem), and this was exemplified on the come up as he started laughing and calling us all assholes at about an hour in.


T+1.5 hr

So at about 9:30 he was starting to laugh at us and by 10:00 we started watching some funny stuff but he kept laughing at everything we watched saying it was all so stupid.

T+2.5 hr

At about 10:30 to 11:00 it was starting to peak, I imagine this was about the time or within an hour, so about T+3 or 4, is when I was KO'd after standing up walking back to couch from the bathroom.

This was when he stood up, I warned him about being KO'd, and he fell down almost falling into my desk, barely catching himself, he laughed said it was all good, he stopped himself (I remember I couldn't feel any pain anyways at the KO point so he probably wouldn't have felt a thing). His brother who always takes care of his ass tried to help him up and he smacked him. Aggression coming out...

He spilled some water on my shirt when he almost hit my desk and it splashed all over making a pattern, and he kept talking about that for a few minutes, "Hahaha, you splashed water all over your shirt, look at it, ahahaha!" He was amazed with the splash pattern.

So we got him sitting back in the chair and we resumed watching shit and he kept laughing at it and seemed to be getting more lost in his world, but it was funny how he kept thinking everything was stupid so we just watched something else but same shit so we put him in the other room and put the TV on the History channel to let him enjoy himself and kind of calm down since he was getting so worked up about what we were watching:

"Zombieland (second media try, fail as well)?! Zombieland?! That's soooo 2009! That's 2007! 2008! Hahah, it's 2010 you idiots! Zombieland?! What is this shit, it's 2010!"

T+4/5 hr

So midnight to 1 AM he was chilling, listening to the History channel, laughing and talking to himself, sweating quite profusely, refusing to drink much water until almost 2 AM.

At this point we were kind of exhausted with his intense trip and we were going in and out of the room checking on him, taking turns, and doing some K for ourselves since it so wonderfully short in duration, and smoking some bud. We could hear him laugh in the other room.

Eventually, towards 1:45 AM, he started crying, and his brother went to check up on him and they had a meaningful conversation about the meaning of life, he was still kinda crying with his head in his hands.

At this point at 2:00 AM I had to get him out unfortunately because I had someone coming over and I didn't want them to freak out seeing him, or him seeing the other guy, plus the other guys wanted to take him home since it had been so long.

They take him out to the front door and 2 guys walk with him on either side, sort of carrying/pushing him out to the car, he had no sense of direction and was pretty mumbly/unintelligible.


Conclusion

Amazing to see the relative safety of this chemical. I should have been smarter, aware of the potency and stuck with 75 mg but this guy is a fiend and I like to entertain and I was curious, so I succumbed.

Sorry it took so long to write but it was a really long day, I didn't get much sleep the day after, and I've been sick.

Anyways, the spirit molecule DMT aspect of this chemical intrigues me, can it force realization to people? I wonder if this will have any affect on his aggressive/abusive behaviors and his opiate use, like how LSD was found useful in stopping alcoholics via personal revelation (I wonder if 4-AcO-DMT could be used for pain treatment because it seems to block pain and also distract the psychological interpretation of the pain).

 

wow.

 

That sounds like a wild time haha, and i think if you realize how to deal with those mentioned problems or change your behavior while on a drug, it's ultimately up to you in the end to act on what you've discovered

 

Or some are pioneers.

 

Even without prior knowledge, going blind this pioneer went on, he probably wouldn't have wanted to be a pioneer but he just wanted an experience.

I think he had a different idea for what was coming:

"Oh my God this is fucking terrible, you guys are fucking assholes!" He said that few times, around T+3, peaking. He was very incoherent.

He's pretty incoherent when he is "normal," which means probably on a little of various opiates, and some K, so him calling us all fucking assholes and hitting and shit wasn't that surprising or out of the ordinary.







Thought it was worth mentioning that he said that because he was a semi-unintentional pioneer (since he sort of pushed me, asking for it).

 

lol wait just a sec let me make sure i'm getting this right. you gave your friend a 100 mg without testing the dose yourself? lol that's not right man. at the end of your report it sounds like he was still well out there, any idea when he finally came down(perhaps he didn't without assistance from benzo's?). was he the only one to take it that high that night?

man I'm glad he is alright. one hell of anight to remember that's for sure. I would say it's safe to assume 100 mg 4-aco-dmt = temporary insanity? nice research man, I wonder if anyone else is gonna take it higher any in the future(I sure as shit know I won't).

 

?????? take some drugs man

 

I have to disagree with you here, at least somewhat. Maybe "natural tolerance" is the wrong way to describe it, but some people are more affected by mushrooms than others. I've dosed with the same friend on mushrooms about 5 or 6 times and I consistently trip for about 2 hours longer than him and IMO a bit harder. We take the exact same dose, at the same time. We weigh the same so that's not the issue. I think I am just affected by psilocin differently than he. He'll literally be done tripping, ready to go to sleep, and the walls will still be breathing for me, I won't have enough sense/visual ability to see my cell phone screen well enough to use it. (Note: this is normally at the 6-7 hour mark depending on dose, although I have had residing visuals 10.5 hours after dosing)

Point being, I really don't think you can say it's all personal preference on how hard you like to trip. Yes, that does contribute to what people determine to be the amount they like, but there are definitely other factors that play a roll in how much a person is affected by a drug that are intrinsic to their genetic/biological makeup.

 

lol no thanks man. anymore unless it's pot psychadelics or mdxx I'm not very interested. I was just baffled and excited by some of the details in the report.

edit: I lied. I eat benzo's occasionally

 

First of all id like to start off by saying. congratulations you did it. well done. Second If u need 90mg of 4-aco-dmt. the quality of ur product sucks, find a new vendor. u honestly shouldn't ever need to do more then. 20-30mg at MOST ever. ive totally content with 15mg who knows maybe my scales off.

Seeing as it is a tryptamines , you must generally have a huge tolerance to them may not be the quality of the product. rather then the individual bio chem of you as previously stated. - Mushrooms do have a natural tolerance. some people can eat an 1/8th. others need to eat 5-6 grams to equal an 1/8th its all based off of the actual person.

Anyhow, I just want to say, please, remember. these are RC if you feel like doing the RC and being on that list of fools dead due to OD thats your choice. Because you did 30mg and id dident do it. and u did 55 and u dident like it, so u did 90, and u do 125 next time. I suggest make wiser choices, your really pushing the limits. something i like in a person. im glad to see your pushing things. but i really cannot stress to you enough the general term of the fact that these are RC and u are doing triple the amount needed for any person, honestly. if it dosent get u high, stop doing it. u shouldn't be eating that much man. find something eles to do.

DO NOT DO THIS


please readers, if u do RC, do not eat 95 mg of them. And if you, please write a note and put it in your pocket to your mother explaining how you took a chemical that has very little studys done to it. and ate about 4-5 times the amount needed for any normal human being.

if u need to eat more then 40mg of this to get off,
stop doing it.

 

I hate people like that with a passion, and don't have the ability to give them valuable drugs.

I mean, I'm sure it's for the better, and props to you, the douchebag clearly needs some very high dosing(I don't mean because of tolerance).... But I can't watch someone like that take my drugs... Just can't do it.

 

I am very aware that 30 mg or 15 is all that is needed and that is all that everyone I know needs, but this one was very special and 55 did absolutely nothing, and thus it happened.

I was not worried about using such a large amount because it is only a small portion of resources. I am also not worried about the quality of the lab's 4-AcO-DMT as I have tested it myself.

It needed to happen, it was a good experience, and it doesn't need to happen for awhile, or maybe again, but I think everyone needs to have some experience with psilocin and 4-AcO-DMT for there is a want.




I highly respect your concern for safety and I do not encourage anyone to try anything like this, please.