4-AcO-DMT "Perma-fry"?

I've already posted this as a reply on another thread, but I figure I would re-post it as a thread of its own for quicker/more replies:


Alright, I have a question... Last night, me and a friend experimented again with some 4-AcO-DMT. I took roughly 80-100mg, and she took 25-50mg.
For the majority of the trip, everything was alright, we were both just tripping really hard. However, when we started to come down, she started acting extremely strange. She became extremely unresponsive, closing up, telling me she was dead. I would ask her what we did that day and she would have no idea. She kept repeating to me that she was dead and that she just didn't care. When confronted by her mom, she would divulge any and all information that she could remember, including what she had done and who she had gotten the 4-AcO-DMT from (me). The night ended with her mom bringing her to the emergency room.

Should I be scared here? Her mom found one of the capsules containing the 4-AcO-DMT in my friend's bedroom, and she believes she got it from me.
Also, will she be alright? I mean, everyone tells me she will be, that she'll come back down, but it's just hard to believe after seeing her like that. Her essence was just completely gone. I know, ego-death, but it was just so much.

So, could anyone help me out here? Any and all information would help...
I REALLY hope she's going to be okay.

 

PLEASE help.

 

You'll probably be fine but I wouldn't have any drugs at your house for awhile.

 

That's not ego death, that's psychosis. She will be fine physically, but she might never be the same mentally again. It sounds like 4aces broke her mind. Very very shitty that she divulged sensitive information like that. You should definitely clean your office out and lay low for a few months.

4aces can be devastating psychologically, it's really a deep one. I wonder what happened in her trip, maybe she realized some kind of guilt and wants to be dead now, and wipe the slate clean? Just speculating.

 

I really don't believe she's guilty of anything.
She's a very good person, and she knows that. She also happens to be my ex-girlfriend (who still has VERY strong feelings for me). The only thing that she would respond to (consistently) was "do you love me?" All she would say was "yes." When she stopped responding to everything else, this is what I would use to get her attention.

I don't think it's that she wanted to die. She just thought she was going to, as I've heard with many cases of an intense psych experience. When I would ask her if she loved me, and she would say yes, I would ask her to come back (from the trip), and that she can't be dead if she feels love. I would ask her to see the world with me, trying to get her grip back on reality, to live. I would try to get her to smile and she would a little. I've talked to a few friends who have decent experience with such RCs and they've all said that she'd be just fine.
I'm just worried, still. Reinforcement always helps.

 

That's seriously messed up. Had she ever done psychedelics before? If not, then maybe she just wasn't prepared for the experience and reacted badly. If so, then I'm at a loss.

 

The main thing that stood out for me was "she took 25-50mg", which leads me to believe you dosed her very irresponsibly and she ended up with a dose that she wasn't prepared for. That is, of course, assuming you are the one who "measured" her dose for her.

 

She has, acid several times, weed A LOT, and 4-AcO-DMT three times before at ~25mg.

 

When my ex gf first did acid she pretty much panicked the whole trip and thought she'd gone mad until the peak ended... nothing like what you describe, sounds like a messy state of affairs.

 

Give her a xanax then get back to us ;-)

 

The only thing that makes me the least bit comfortable is that, if she is at the hospital, hopefully the ER doctor will recognize the symptoms of psychedelic drug use. They can run a test for the more dangerous chems (Ket, PCP, etc., which will show up negative) and they'll be left with more traditional psychs like LSD, shrooms, etc., with which an overdose is virtually impossible.
I pray that they just give her an anti-psychotic and tell her to sleep it off, and all will be well.

 

Now this is gonna put a little tick next to 4-AcO-DMT in the hospital which will be passed onto government.

 

I can't say we were irresponsible with it. The dose was fairly light in comparison to my 100mg+, and we were away from parents for a majority of the day.

 

I'd defo bulk buy 4-AcO-DMT if it was gonna get scheduled!

 

Keep in mind, I am in southern Mississippi. Financial resources are few. I doubt this will become anything on a large scale.

 

No but the Doctors will ask what drugs she's taken and as you said she's saying 4-ACO-DMT and already told her Mum, this will get recorded by the hospital.

 

Possibly, but I did tell her mom that she had two xanax to take her attention from the 4-AcO.

 

I don't think her state is a typical Xanax reaction, don't think it'll really take attention away.

 

True, true. Her mom knows NOTHING about any of that, although an ER doctor surely will.
I doubt they could get too much out of her. She was REALLY hard to talk to.