4-AcO into 4-HO

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by p0ly, Jan 17, 2011.

  1. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    So took a look at my 4-AcO-DMT last night and the white powder has turned brown like how Mushrooms dry and degrade. I'm certain it's now 4-HO-DMT, Psilocin. So it's basically dried shrooms except some 4-AcO-DMT may still exist.

    Forgot it was put in a wrap, never happened after long periods of time in a baggie.

    Anyone tried degraded 4-AcO-DMT before?
     
  2. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    ...I don't think that the color turning to off-white id indicitive of this chemical transformation.

    Could be wrong... But the fact that shrooms change color as they age, and the fact that a similar synthetic chemical changes color when exposed to air moisture(the most likely reason for the color change)

    I mean, my mephedrone changed to brown after the container had been unsealed for a few days... so? it's just a bit of moisture and detiorated, damaged chemical...

    Is 4-aco pscilicybin? I mean, interesting theory, but either way, i doubt this is what happend. I thought pscilicybin isn't even active, until it gets converted to pscilicin anyway....
     
  3. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure it's now 4-HO mate, Mephe is a completely different story. Psilocybin isn't a very lasting chemical (shelf life) and it wasn't sitting around for a few days, think 3+ months.
     
  4. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    By the way 4-PO-DMT is Psilocybin, 4-AcO-DMT is different.
     
  5. force_of_acid

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    It may have traces of psilocin but it's highly unlike much of it is turned into psilocin.
     
  6. RooRshack

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    ...If it's not pscilicybin, it didin't turn into pscilicin, or at least, not on any large scale... I doubt at all...
     
  7. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    4-AcO-DMT always has traces of Psilocin in it. I'm not just making a wild comparison to 4-AcO-DMT turning brown and Mushrooms, i read on Bluelight it DOES degrade into 4-HO-DMT. Not sure mine has but i reckon it has. I want to hear from people who've tried possibly degraded 4-AcO.
     
  8. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    Why is it highly unlikely?
     
  9. RooRshack

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    Yeah, and last time I was on bluelight I was looking for info on JWH solubility in iso, and no one knew THAT, but I was reading this thread where this guy claimed to have "invented" all these chemicals, that he thought where psychedelic, that where basically all the benzine rings he could fit on the screen, all stuck together :p

    Just sayin, bluelight is full of shitttt, even if some people there do know lots. Just like here. And there's people speculating, just like me, here :p

    I'm just saying, nearly everything will turn brown as it ages, from cars to tryptamines.... For sure, if you speak the truth, there was probably some in it, but if you're set on trying it, look up how you can accelerate the transformation, so you get all of it, instead of however much feels like degrading.
     
  10. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    So you're saying white people turn brown when they get old?



    Yeah BL isn't 100% fact just like you or I aren't, doesn't mean they're wrong and you're right.
    Do you know much about 4- tryptamines and chemistry?

    Oh and about no one knowing about JWH did the entire community read it, JWH is pretty poor IMO. Wouldn't you rather Weed?
     
  11. force_of_acid

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    Cuz bunch of 4-aco-DMT samples would have psilocin in it and if that would be case no one would sell it.. cuz even trace amount of psilocin in 4-aco-DMT would make it same as selling cut psilocin and no vendor would sell that...
     
  12. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    If you test it i'm pretty sure it'd come back as illegal anyway (in a lot of countries, probably not Asia though). Vendors aren't perfect. in the UK they cut illegal Cathinones with other stuff.
     
  13. guerillabedlam

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    Pure 4- ho dmt (psilocin) is white your shit turning brown says nothing in regards to it degrading like that.

    People think 4-aco dmt gets converted into psilocin upon ingestion anyways...
     
  14. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    So the colour doesn't say shit according to you, what about the fact it has been left out over room temperature exposed to air for 3 months... coincidence?

    Also 4-HO-DMT synth is different to degraded 4-AcO obviously, so the fact that's white isn't much proof :p
     
  15. guerillabedlam

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    Lol that probably means you just have a shittier product now if anything.
     
  16. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    I take that as you don't know, and yes degrading normally would mean less strong or 'shittier' if you're negative.
     
  17. jo_k_er_man

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    oxidation
     
  18. guerillabedlam

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    or realistic
     
  19. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    Well no one actually knows if it has degraded into 4-HO-DMT just some apparent realistic answers yet i see no evidence for or against my idea it could've degraded into 4-HO-DMT.
     
  20. guerillabedlam

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    or you are just stupid and/or stubborn
     
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