60mg 2c-e

I had the evening free and was bored, and had heard tales of love and adventure with high doses of 2c-e. 15mg surprised me with its strength, considering every other 2c-x disappointed me at doses that were supposed to destroy me. I had recently tried 35mg 2c-t-7 and was finally given a taste of the true psychedelic potential of PEA, which I had all but written off up until that point. It had also been a long, long time since I've taken a high dose of something and I missed the immersive and novel experience that this provides.

I parachuted the powder and went out on a walk in the pouring rain with a bottle of Ginger Ale (worth its weight in gold when dealing with nausea) and a joint. It took me 10 minutes to reach a nice spot in my nearby forest, up against a tree barely sheltered from the onslaught of rain. I was beginning to feel a little gut rot so I drank the ale and the ginger and carbonation helped immensely. I quickly smoked the joint and decided that since it was already the 30 minute mark and my nausea was non-existent, I could just head home and not risk being too high to go home and stuck in a thunderstorm for hours tripping face.

This was a smart move as by now I was beginning to get very high, very spaced out, and I knew if I dilly dallied I would be absolutely stuck here.

I made it home, barely had time to post that I was feeling great, but the relentless machinery of the trip was pumping and grinding and spewing oil and steam hard and fast, so I threw on a 3 hour playlist of Carbon Based Lifeforms (wow) and Ozric Tentacles. I lied in bed, full of coursing energy, not sure if I wanted to fall asleep or go dancing in the rain or just shatter into my constituent quarks.

I became more and more disconnected from sober reality, and only the occassional return of it signaled to me how high I was. I would suddenly realize that this great tapestry/landscape before me was the bed I was lying in, and I reached over and drank my ice water and dabbed some on my hot forehead. I had to keep it down because my parents were sleeping with their door open in the next room, so to deal with the ocean of voltage piercing my reality I would just squirm slowly in bed and channel the energy into slow, rhythmic steady movements, a kind of conscious tantric seizure.

The music no longer influenced my emotions, but was my emotions, and was me, and I it, and everything was spinning and collapsing into itself, boundaries dissolving, differentiation impossible. I laughed in my head that TNS and raz and everyone else knew exactly what I was going through at that moment what a wonderful community of sharing this is.

My thoughts were not too affected I found, I was mostly thinking things like "wish I wasn't alone in this bed" and "hope im not being too loud" and things like that. The experience was entirely a sensational one, the body high and synesthesia dominated the experience.

The overwhelming neutrality of this substance assaulted me, I had many moments of "Wow, people weren't joking!". It's difficult to describe, but essentially, imagine the positive push of things like MDMA, but now imagine that same push is not towards the positive, but towards a wholly neutral place, neither good nor bad, just psychedelic, seperate from positive/negative or happy/sad or loving/unloving. I understood why people described this as an artificial high, a strange alien state of mind. It was at once a familiar place but the engine taking me there was very different from other engines, it cared not for the smile on my face, only for my gasps.

The sense data kept growing and growing in intensity until it was all I knew, and I spent some time essentially unconscious on the bed, existing only as a conduit of electricity, as a recepticle of signals. Business as usual I suppose.

This suddenly ended after an eternal moment, and I found I had regained 90% of my lucidity while still retaining most of the sensorial effects. The visuals were surprisingly strong and good, reminding me of DPT and LSD but with their own strange shifting deep flavor.

24 hours later I was still not completely back to baseline, still had racing thoughts, but the day after that I am fine and with no complaints.

I did not end up vomiting thanks to the ginger and cannabis, did not suffer any gastic complaints at all really, and overall the experience was much better in terms of the high and much better in terms of the lack of low than I expected. There appears to be no increase in body load with dose, the load I got on 15mg was possibly greater than the one on 60mg.

A strange and worthy substance of exploration. It lacked the cosmic disintegration of tryptamines and the effortless insight of LSD, but those are only negative points if that is what you are expecting. If you're looking for a few hours of insane euphoria, a ridiculously good sensational experience, and feeling what it's like to become a bolt of lightning coursing through yourself, try a high dose 2c-e experience.

 

Great report writer, it shed some more light for me on high dose 2ce. Are the Closed Eye visuals/visions pretty cool?

 

Great report, I'm glad you shared and finally got to experience 2c-e properly. And yes, Ginger Ale is pretty incredible, it's amazing how well it alleviates and prevents nausea.

My first time at 55mg, I closed my eyes and I was inside an Alex Grey painting. So yes they can get pretty amazing, IME.

 

Hooray! Good report as always. I know exactly what you mean about maintaining cognitive thoughts (more or less) but being whisked away by the electricity. Sometimes I really have to force myself to alter my thinking patterns with 2c-e, and I wish it would come a little more naturally. But still, definitely in my top 5. I'm so glad you decided to go through with it, 2c-e definitely shines at the higher doses.

 

Playing NeverWinter Nights the other day I came across this and immediately thought of you, Mr. Writer;



Does that capture the experience?

 

Another amazing report The words you used perfectly convey the 2ce experience.

And yes, GB.......CEV's from high doses of 2ce are insane. I don't know how they are for anyone else, but for me, the CEV's totally reflect the "electricity" of the 2ce trip. Imagine flying through an endless space of electricity and pulsating white light while, at the same time, FEELING that same electricity and white light coursing through your body. During my 2ce trips, the tightness with which I closed my eyes greatly affected the physical sensations I was experiencing and the CEV's I was seeing. If I closed my eyes tighter, then the euphoria would become more powerful and the CEV's would increase in intensity/speed, if that makes any sense.

 

so what's the line where a low dose becomes a high dose with 2ce?

great report writer

 

I suppose that's different for everyone, which is the point you're getting at, I assume

 

Did you dance man? 2ce makes me dance like crazy. The music just moves me

 

Awesome report. Still shying away from this material myself after getting nicely ass-kicked at 18 mgs, he he. i admire you young folks, but suspect that 60 mgs of this material might make me do something i would very deeply regret upon returning to baseline . . .

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Your sig pic is awesome. I love cats

 

Belly ache? No large doses I do.....?

 

Mr Writer, you should buy a bag of these for your next trip. I cant tell you how amazing they are, the taste, texture, chewiness, and effect are PERFECT for any trip and will have you in high spirits

 

top notch. supra-visions, entire sensorial packages of events that are more than just "visuals" . . . synesthesia galore. CEV was mostly just "energy" rather than discrete things and visions.

Ah the part where you go save the spirit of the forest love it!! and yes that's exactly it . . . except the synesthesia was not as total as with LSD or DPT. it was mostly fixated on vision/hearing/physical sensation, there is far more intertwining on high dose LSD with thoughts, memories, emotions, shapes, just everything at all levels of meaning. this was like "medium strength" synesthesia.

the trip in essence ^

There is no line, it's all about attitude man . Instead of tip-toeing up to a high dose mg by mg with great trepidation, just pick a dose that you know is high, and commit to it! It's that simple. No fear necessary. Trust in your ability to go through the experience and emerge intact. You are not less able to than I am, than TNS is, than anybody is. Do you think my jump from 15 to 60 was foolhardy? irresponsible? I did not think so, many have done it, and have reported it is aeons ahead of low doses, which is exactly what I always say about LSD and tryptamines, so I thought hey, they are probably right, lets do this. And they were right. What a shocker, turns out high doses of amazing psychedelics are indescribably better than low doses.

I did, in bed. i was smiling and dancing and just

Very happy I did this. That was the last of my 2c-e . . . don't know if I'll ever pick up any again, but I'm very happy I could meet the molecule this one time in full force. How do high doses 2c-i compare? This one has been piquing my interest lately with all the jibba jabba about it.

 

have you ever read anything by Shulgin? i'm not the only one who starts low and works their way up.

and yes, i do think jumping from 15 mg to 60 is irresponsible.

 

Shulgin is notorious for under-dosing lol . . . pihkal and tihkal dosages are almost useless for some substances

 

This is worthy of a neg rep but since most of your posts are quality I'll spare you. Those things are god awful and recommending them to someone else is not cool.

 

I think the low and high dosing of substances are equally important. Shulgin's dosages are very useful especially if we are considering these substances as serious psychedelic medicines and tools. Shulgin was a psyentist not a psychonaut and I often find for working seriously on problems through psychedelics and also in the company of others I prefer low to moderate dosing. If I am all by myself and have a few days off without priorities to tend to and want a sensory show then I prefer high dosing. As I said somewhere else though it doesnt matter if its 4 hits or 400 hits that change in perception to me is equally valuable just as long as you cross the threshold.

 

i can't help but take his advice seriously, seeing as he CREATED 2ce.

i know he is notorious for under-dosing...among people who trip more often than myself and who prefer larger doses.

maybe he was more in tune to the psychedelic headspace, so didn't need to take a monstrous dose to get somewhere good. maybe he was using them in a different manner or for different reasons than yourself.