9/11 Loose Change Vid

http://fpiarticle.blogspot.com/2005/12/911-video-loose-change.html

I imagine that most people have seen this, but if you havnt then i suggest you do.

Tell me your thoughts when youve seen it, its long but worth it ;P

 

this is a great movie, really get's people thinking. I have been investigating 9/11 personallly since 2002 so i was already heavily involved in the 9/11 truth movement before this movie came out...and it's helped a lot except for a few errors in the movie, and of course the end where they source wikipedia, what were they thinking...final cut should fix the errors and it should be even better, to watch a preview of the new loose change coming out this september, go here http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1840058038507754977

 

I've watched it numerous times. It's probably the best prooduced 9/11 video, though my favorite is Anthony Hilder's 911 The Greatest Lie Ever Sold. You can watch this video on Google Vid, along with just about every other 9/11 documentary. It deals less with 9/11 than the agenda behind 9/11. It gives a different perspective from 'Loose Change', which is also great.

Here is the link:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6952102263921897950&q=Greatest+Lie+Ever+Sold

 

Another film to make some money and satisfy ideological needs.

While they have a valid point about the government taking advantage of 911, they go overboard with distortions, deceptions, and outright lies, much the same tactics that the Bush administration used with its WMD argument to promote its agenda. Those are the same tactics that people here seem so upset about. But, some people will believe anything, as long as it's on their side and promotes their agenda.

Now PM has come out with a book debunking claims. More money to be made.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158816635X/104-4345132-6151135

Uh oh. One of the author's names is John McCain. Now Chris Bollyn is going to call up the author's mother and claim she said her son is related to Senator John McCain.

(waiting for Batman and his Boy Wonder to jump in)
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Fantastic Movie!


i watched it last month when fylthevoyd posted in link in the 99 Bottles forum: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166589

sent it along to some friends and family.

Hopefully it opened up more than a few closed eyes.

 

What don't you people understand. That 9/11 video is a bootleg hand me down video. Its just an opinionated story about the conspiracy involving 9/11. All it does is open your eyes to the possiblity that 9/11 was either planned or was allowed to take place. We all know that there is some truth to it but if your gonna change your view on 9/11 because of some horrible video, thats too bad. At least go out and buy a real video based on the 9/11 conspiracies or read a real book.

 

Maybe because friends and family would rather have a free link emailed to them laying out the basics of the conspiracy theory before they shell out $20 somewhere else.

That's like complaining that flyers and leaflets are not as well constructed as a copy of Conquest of Bread.

It's meant for mass distribution, anyone who finds the ideas put forth interesting enough can then research the matter further.

 

Good point Zeppelin Kid, as much as i do like loose change, it definitly makes mistakes and has some claims that i dont agree with. I personally think that a missile DID NOT hit the pentagon, they take two people who said it was something other than an airliner and make it seem like that was the main thought of all the witnesses, but most said they saw a 757. This may not be true though being that most of those witnesses work for the government and probably were told in a polite way that if they say anything other they will lose their job, theres just a lot of information out there and i think if you want a real good information source for 9/11 you should read Webster Tarpley's "9/11 Synthetic Terrorism: Made in the USA" it goes over the Fact that Various FBI agents who could have pounced on this operation were told to shut up and to stop investigating it, John O'Neill one of the outspoken FBI agents who was shut down was then moved to the world trade center, first day was going to be september 11, 2001 where he died. It goes over the fact also though, that this entire operation that the FBI all thought was middle eastern, was actually being run by elements of our own and other Western countries governments inside the intelligence apparatus like the CIA, MI6 and MI5. There were drills that morning of Hijacked planes ramming into the world trade center and pentagon which was a LIVE FLY exercise, meaning they were going to actually play it out, this confused the Norad fighter jet scrambles because fake blips were being put on their radars. If you listen to the norad tapes that HAVE been released a lot of them are saying "Is this real world or exercise" because they knew that the drills were going on. Could Al-Queda have set up Vigilant Guardian, Amiral Virgo, Vigilant Warrior? Which gave way to the success of the attacks due to the confusion they caused to Norad? No they couldn't have, someone in our military had to. I'm telling you research this deeper, don't just watch loose change, it's just a starting point, a fraction of the information.

 

You don't even know what you're talking about. Dylan Avery, Korey Rowe and Jason Bermas gave permission for the video to be distributed freely across the internet. The video has not been "bootlegged."

The video IS to open people's eyes and hopefully get them doing their own research and forming their own opinions, instead of letting the corporate media do all their thinking for them.

Also, the video is NOT based on opinion, as you claimed, since it sticks to mainly news reports, eyewitness accounts and physical evidence. Very little in the way of opinion is provided.

There are plenty of people out there, ranging from physics professors to the father of Reaganomics, Paul Craig Roberts, to NYC firemen, who have come forward with evidence and/or testimony that proves the official story to be a lie. You don't need a video to tell you what is painfully evident to those with an open mind, though the video DOES do a good job of raising the questions that people should be asking themselves. The video serves to wake people up, not to form a definitive conclusion about what exactly happened.

Stop being so arrogant and thinking you know everything.

 

yeah, that's why the makers of the film have it available on the net for free...

 

Angel, whether it was a "missile" or merely a small remotely piloted crafted similar in size to a Global Hawk, you will find - if you do some research on the aerodynamics of a commercial passenger airliner - that in no way could it have been Flight 77 or any 757 for that matter which made that necessary ground scraping approach into the Pentagon.

I pointed this out at length in a previous thread on 911.

All in all the glaring discrepencies and physical impossibilities dismissed by the bandwagon brigade of uncritical, non-investigatory and intellectually undiscerning "official talking point" junkies are so numerous as to make the "official" story (repeated ad infinitum without a shred of concrete evidence ever once produced by said "officials" to be forensically verified by independent transparent public investigation.

These past 5 years have been a demonstration in the effectiveness of mass media repeat suggestion in establishing manufactured consent in the public psyche. Brainwashing at its finest.

 

I have a hard time believing that Hani Hanjour, who could not even fly a Cesna, was able to descend 7,000 feet in the last four minutes before the Pentagon was hit, making a sharp 270 degree turn then flying inches above the ground in order to hit the side of the Pentagon opposite where people like Rumsfeld were. Even professional pilots could NOT pull this off in a 757, and that is a fact. This to me is proof enough.

 

I just get pissed off when people like you are the poster boys for google videos. You do realize that is what you are, a poster boy. You do know what your talking about and I will give you that credit but your just as bad as I am or any other person on this forum.

 

flapping your jaws again? what did you drop another deuce on an acid trip and get freaked out?

 

I figured you wouldn't let that one go. It was only a matter of time before you found me again. So this is how its gonna be? Huh Relayer? Stalking me in my posts and bringing up old news.

 

Good point, I don't believe he could have either after hearing how poorly he did on the flight simulators as well. But there is evidence that the planes were actually hijacked by remote control, i know it sounds crazy but there is the ability to do that using the Global Hawk system (I know you know this Matt...). Another theory is that is proposed is that the planes were in fact switched with drones, and when the transponders went off, the planes actually landed and were swapped with them at secret airforce bases, this again sounds crazy but our own governmnent proposed this plan in the 1960's on "Operation Northwoods", if you havn't heard of it look it up on the internet (Once again, I know you are aware of this document), it's been declassified but they don't expect you to go look it up. Kennedy Dropped this plan and fired Lemnitzer, the head of the joint chiefs of staff because of it, he was then assasinated. If they had the ability to switch planes at eglin airforce base like thye say, and switch them with drones to be shot down over cuban waters to blame cuba and invade them in the 1960's, think about the ability of technology they have now. Now, people say this would be too big and the government would get caught, well for one thing many prominent people are coming out about this, and another reason they wouldnt care is no matter how many movies get made like loose change and no matter how many people become aware of this fact, the US attorney General is still Alberto Gonzalez, who could stop any REAL investigation into this event, so they are pretty much invincible. Sometimes I even think the people who carried this out WANT congress and the Senate to know they did it so they don't fuck with them. If anyone wants to know what happens to people who blow the whistle on powerful people, watch the movie "The Insider". It shows how you will lose your house, your car, and even your entire family and still nothing get's out, is it really worth the risk? especially when you have been working in the government or in the media for a long time and your older, you will never resign out of protest or blow the whistle on something that probably can't be fought anyway, it's a sad world we live in but that is the reality. My friends dad works in the pentagon and regularly watches loose change, he doesnt believe everything but he certainly believes the official story is a fraud and that we are most definitly being lied to about what happened.

 

Well, I definitely believe the planes that flew into the towers were remote controlled. But for the Pentagon, no Boeing 757, regardless of who or what is piloting it, can pull off the maneuvers I described in my last post. It is an impossibility based on the structure and abilities of the plane itself. First of all, A Boeing 757 is incapable of descending at the speeds recorded without going into a free fall and crashing to the ground. And the speeds of whatever hit the Pentagon (or, more likely, fired whatever hit the Pentagon, ie: a missile) are unheard of for a 757. We are dealing with some sort of military aircraft here based on the radar alone.

When you couple this with the visual evidence (or lack thereof) it's just too transparent -- at least to me. I believe that whatever hit the Pentagon was some sort of drone or, most likely, a cruise missile, possibly packed with DU. No part of a Boeing is able to punch through 3 rings (SIX steel-reinforced concrete walls) of the Pentagon, leaving a clean, neatly circular exit hole we see here:

 

Not to mention the security system that the Pentagon has.

 

Doesn't The Pentagon have some kind of Anti-Missile Technology?

 

Yes, it certainly does. But I am sure that can be conveniently turned off just as easily as them confiscating all the tapes of the "plane" hitting it.