A peaceful way to change the currupt government

What is another peaceful way to overthrow the government besides voicing concerns and voting?

A way that involves no killing = boycott money which = an inner shut down of the United States. Maybe a boycott on money would cause the ppl to not be slaves to this systematic lacking of earning potential any longer.

Think about it... What would happen if everyone in the U.S. walked out on their job to boycott money on a specific date and told consumers to just help themselves?--And instead of earning and using money, that day and onward till the government changes, everyone in the U.S. instead would steal things needed and/or wanted? What could the government do to stop that? There is no law on walking out on a job is there?

I figure only certain top notch bi*ch ass government official employees would keep working in their field to try to run the U.S. and give it order. I also figure certain doctors wouldnt be able to walk out to boycott money because that may cause deaths of certain ppl. So these certian doctors would have to stay working to avoid big time penalties.

(BTW, are there any other crucial jobs that would have to have workers keep working besides certain doctors attending to certain patiants any of you know of?)

Anyhow, I think this could work to change the current corrupt U.S. government into a better government that doesnt want to face anarchy. If we all cant have enough money to make it in life then none of us should have money and we should just all steal to equal things out for all citizens.

What say you on this matter? What would a boycott of money cause? Or rather, what would a national worker walk out and strike cause in this nation?

 

I say its potentially a good idea definitly. But I don't think enough people would go through with it.

 

never read thoreau or gandhi?

 

If you could get enough people to just get up, walk out, and sit down outside and not move until the government bowed down to us (as it should) then we could have change right now. But would enough people do this?

I think a slower protest sort of along the lines you mentioned would be to stop being part of the insanely consumer driven economy. Big corporations and big government thrive on people spending money. What would happen if suddenly people changed their spending habits? Don't get into debt, get out if you are, don't buy big name brands and/or those products produced by big corporations, don't shop at the big corporate stores, be more of a saver than a spender, reuse and get/buy second hand and used items instead of buying new, and try to live below the level of income where you have to pay taxes. Hit them were it hurts the most in the most peaceful and legal ways.

 

It's true that money does effectively hold most Americans in slavery. But I don't think something like that is necessary. What people need to do is just start standing up and refusing to cooperate when the government tries to take more of their rights away. Complacency is the obstacle that needs to be overcome. They're only on the top because we're all holding them up. It's time to let them fall.

When they come out with their new fascistic policies, people just have to say, "Tough shit, I'm not getting a National ID Card." Just like that. Because it's a slippery slope. People just agree to things they don't like for the sake of convenience. "It'll be easier if I just go along with it." But the problem is, it doesn't end there. You go for the ID Card, then it'll be microchips. Microchips are a definite part of the agenda. Don't let them put one in you.

 

Very true, and doesn't involve theft.

 

there already are microchips man. the way they are making the rf ids sound, if you refuse to carry one you must be a terrorist right? i think its is a combination of fear and convenience that keeps us under the control of the government.if we can let go of our sweet suburbia lives where everything is so close and convenient then we might have a chance. there are so many small things that you can do during your day that could have an impact. if enough people did those small things everyday, they wouldn't be so small anymore...honestly i could go on about this forever. but anyways, the point is that we need more participation and more people willing to sacrifice convenience and stand up to "the man" and just peacefully say no we aren't going to live like this anymore.
i like your idea, its a meaningful one. but people cant just steal everything. it would create chaos. maybe a bartering system instead?

 

I know there are already microships. They're small enough to be inserted via hypodermic needles. But they aren't mandatory at the moment. That is the goal, and if people go for that, they will be completely screwed.

You see, even though the chips can track you and monitor your body, the messages going from the chip to the computer are nowhere near as serious as the ones going the other way: computer to chip. Because, with these chips, they can actually manipulate your body. They can make you violent or docile, raise or lower your sex drive, and other things of this nature. And they can do it individually or en masse. If people accept these implants, there is no going back.

 

We all caved on pre-employment screenings, first it was drugs now it's credit. We were sold that it would protect our safety. Then we were sold HMO's and deregulation. What it did was make us more maleable and liable to agree to anything in order to get a job or insurance. The public should have followed Nalancer's advice then.

 

ANARCHY !!!!!!!!!!!
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^ Anarchy? According to whom you? N

 

Non-cooperation and peaceful resistance - Meaning if a Government official demands something do not give them your obideance no matter if they kill you.

Do not purchase anything from government live simmply as possible have one set of clothes. And walk as often as possible share cars.

Quote from wikipedia "The nonviolent approach to social struggle represents a radical departure from conventional thinking about both power and conflict, and yet appeals to a number of widely shared values and everyday ethics."

Protest marches , Public meetings,virgils etc...

non-cooperation-refusal to pay taxes refusal to be bailed from prison etc...

physical intervention - Blockades,sit-ins,occupations

Hunger strikes, pickets, vigils, petitions, sit-ins, tax refusal, go-slows, blockades, draft refusal and public demonstrations are some of the specific techniques

This is a list of non-violent actions

FORMAL STATEMENTS
Public speeches
Letters of opposition or support
Declarations by organizations and institutions
Signed public declarations
Declarations of indictment and intention
Group or mass petitions
COMMUNICATIONS WITH A WIDER AUDIENCE
Slogans, caricatures, and symbols
Banners, posters, and displayed communications
Leaflets, pamphlets, and books
Newspapers and journals
Records, radio, and television
Skywriting and earthwriting
GROUP REPRESENTATIONS
Deputations
Mock awards
Group lobbying
Picketing
Mock elections
SYMBOLIC PUBLIC ACTS
Displays of flags and symbolic colours
Wearing of symbols
Prayer and worship
Delivering symbolic objects
Protest disrobings
Destruction of own property
Symbolic lights
Displays of portraits
Paint as protest
New signs and names
Symbolic sounds
Symbolic reclamations
Rude gestures
PRESSURES ON INDIVIDUALS
"Haunting" officials
Taunting officials
Fraternization
Vigils
DRAMA AND MUSIC
Humourous skits and pranks
Performances of plays and music
Singing
PROCESSIONS
Marches
Parades
Religious processions
Pilgrimages
Motorcades
HONOURING THE DEAD
Political mourning
Mock funerals
Demonstrative funerals
Homage at burial places
PUBLIC ASSEMBLIES
Assemblies of protest or support
Protest meetings
Camouflaged meetings of protest
Teach-ins
WITHDRAWAL AND RENUNCIATION
Walk-outs
Silence
Renouncing honours
Turning one's back
THE METHODS OF SOCIAL NONCOOPERATION
OSTRACISM OF PERSONS
Social boycott
Selective social boycott
Lysistratic nonaction
Excommunication
Interdict
NONCOOPERATION WITH SOCIAL EVENTS, CUSTOMS, AND INSTITUTIONS
Suspension of social and sports activities
Boycott of social affairs
Student strike
Social disobedience
Withdrawal from social institutions
WITHDRAWAL FROM THE SOCIAL SYSTEM
Stay-at-home
Total personal noncooperation
"Flight" of workers
Sanctuary
Collective disappearance
Protest emigration (hijrat)
THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOPERATION: ECONOMIC BOYCOTTS
ACTION BY CONSUMERS
Consumers' boycott
Nonconsumption of boycotted goods
Policy of austerity
Rent withholding
Refusal to rent
National consumers' boycott
International consumers' boycott
ACTION BY WORKERS AND PRODUCERS
Workers' boycott
Producers' boycott
ACTION BY MIDDLEMEN
Suppliers' and handlers' boycott
ACTION BY OWNERS AND MANAGEMENT
Traders' boycott
Refusal to let or sell property
Lockout
Refusal of industrial assistance
Merchants' "general strike"
ACTION BY HOLDERS OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES
Withdrawal of bank deposits
Refusal to pay fees, dues, and assessments
Refusal to pay debts or interest
Severance of funds and credit
Revenue refusal
Refusal of a government's money
ACTION BY GOVERNMENTS
Domestic embargo
Blacklisting of traders
International sellers' embargo
International buyers' embargo
International trade embargo
THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOOPERATION: THE STRIKE
SYMBOLIC STRIKES
Protest strike
Quickie walkout (lightning strike)
AGRICULTURAL STRIKES
Peasant strike
100. Farm workers' strike
STRIKES BY SPECIAL GROUPS
Refusal of impressed labour
Prisoners' strike
Craft strike
Professional strike
ORDINARY INDUSTRIAL STRIKES
Establishment strike
Industry strike
Sympathy strike
RESTRICTED STRIKES
Detailed strike
Bumper strike
Slowdown strike
Working-to-rule strike
Reporting "sick" (sick-in)
Strike by resignation
Limited strike
Selective strike
MULTI-INDUSTRY STRIKES
Generalised strike
General strike
COMBINATION OF STRIKES AND ECONOMIC CLOSURES
Hartal
Economic shutdown
THE METHODS OF POLITICAL NONCOOPERATION
REJECTION OF AUTHORITY
Withholding or withdrawal of allegiance
Refusal of public support
Literature and speeches advocating resistance
CITIZENS' NONCOOPERATION WITH GOVERNMENT
Boycott of legislative bodies
Boycott of elections
Boycott of government employment and positions
Boycott of government departments, agencies, and other bodies
Withdrawal from governmental educational institutions
Boycott of government-supported institutions
Refusal of assistance to enforcement agents
Removal of own signs and placemarks
Refusal to accept appointed officials
Refusal to dissolve existing institutions
CITIZENS' ALTERNATIVES TO OBEDIENCE
Reluctant and slow compliance
Nonobedience in absence of direct supervision
Popular nonobedience
Disguised disobedience
Refusal of an assemblage or meeting to disperse
Sitdown
Noncooperation with conscription and deportation
Hiding, escape, and false identities
Civil disobedience of "illegitimate" laws
ACTION BY GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL
Selective refusal of assistance by government aides
Blocking of lines of command and information
Stalling and obstruction
General administrative noncooperation
Judicial noncooperation
Deliberate inefficiency and selective noncooperation by enforcement agents
Mutiny
DOMESTIC GOVERNMENTAL ACTION
Quasi-legal evasions and delays
Noncooperation by constituent governmental units
INTERNATIONAL GOVERNMENTAL ACTION
Changes in diplomatic and other representation
Delay and cancellation of diplomatic events
Withholding of diplomatic recognition
Severance of diplomatic relations
Withdrawal from international organisations
Refusal of membership in international bodies
Expulsion from international organisations
THE METHODS OF NONVIOLENT INTERVENTION
PSYCHOLOGICAL INTERVENTION
Self-exposure to the elements
The fast
a) Fast of moral pressure
b) Hunger strike
c) Satyagrahic fast
Reverse trial
Nonviolent harassment
PHYSICAL INTERVENTION
Sit-in
Stand-in
Ride-in
Wade-in
Mill-in
Pray-in
Nonviolent raids
Nonviolent air raids
Nonviolent invasion
Nonviolent interjection
Nonviolent obstruction
Nonviolent occupation
SOCIAL INTERVENTION
Establishing new social patterns
Overloading of facilities
Stall-in
Speak-in
Guerrilla theatre
Alternative social institutions
Alternative communication system
ECONOMIC INTERVENTION
Reverse strike
Stay-in strike
Nonviolent land seizure
Defiance of blockades
Politically motivated counterfeiting
Preclusive purchasing
Seizure of assets
Dumping
Selective patronage
Alternative markets
Alternative transportation systems
Alternative economic institutions
POLITICAL INTERVENTION
Overloading of administrative systems
Disclosing identities of secret agents
Seeking imprisonment
Civil disobedience of "neutral" laws
Work-on without collaboration
Dual sovereignty and parallel government

 

Not anarachy...personal responsibility and involvement in government, it's what the US constitution is based on, contrary to what Bush and Cheney would like you to believe. They feel our government is based on executive rule.

They also should be accountable to the American Public at large (Election does not grant kinghood!). I find it hard to understand how we can spread democracy while we allow the very fabric of the constitution to be rendered irrelevant by the constant use of executive priveledge without accountability. The congress is also complicent in that they have allowed these abuses.

 

Our founders and the drafters of the constitution gave us the tools to stop this. If we don't trade our rights for false promises of security.

All you gun lovers what good are your guns if your no longer have any other freedoms. Maybe... that you will have the proper firearms to go quail hunting with Cheney?

 

^Dont you realize the forces that would be against them not to mention a violent revolution would put them into a extreme minority. Would good is a shotgun against an f-16? Why not us something that all men possess the ability to refuse cooperation? Wouldnt a violent insurrection only validate them using force against us?

 

this a realy good idea. some anarchist collectives do similiar things on smaller scales. basically they all go in to a store. and load up on what they need and all run/walk out at the same time.

 

You just made my favorite thread i've seen in quite sometime, because of the inquisitiveness of it. You acknowledge you don't understand how this would affect the government and society, but know enough to know that you don't and lack the stupid pride that so many people have. If that didn't make sense, it was a compliment.

A boycott of money would be incredibly ineffective simply because of the way the world monetary system works. What would essentially happen (if literally every non-essential worker left work can't really be gauged; my estimatation would be that the resulting firings would crush the United States economy, and as a result the major importing countries (ones that export to the US) would suffer. As a result of this, China and other major importers would sell off their cash reserves, crashign the United States currency.

"If we all cant have enough money to make it in life then none of us should have money and we should just all steal to equal things out for all citizens."

Your third paragraph is utterly misguided. The problem with the idea presented is that it ignores the production of the goods and the money it takes to make them. Were everybody to steal items to even the world out, then the stores would go out of business rather quickly. Their purchasing power would decrease, and their quantity of items purchase would be reduced, while price increases. This causes inflation, which is the reduction in the value of money. Were this to happen on a large scale in the United States suddenly, a huge number of jobs would be lost, furthering the cycle. But as these stores lose money, the manufacturers and the jobs there would decrease as operating costs increase and sales decrease. The cycle continues to where nearly everyone is poor and needs to steal, but there is no production and we all die.

 

You inspire me.

 

His message is the most rational...just say no, the Government sold young people on that with drugs and sex, it's time we as a society woke up and bought into it's simplicity. Just say NO! like Nalencer outlined.

 

Precisely.