What is another peaceful way to overthrow the government besides voicing concerns and voting? A way that involves no killing = boycott money which = an inner shut down of the United States. Maybe a boycott on money would cause the ppl to not be slaves to this systematic lacking of earning potential any longer. Think about it... What would happen if everyone in the U.S. walked out on their job to boycott money on a specific date and told consumers to just help themselves?--And instead of earning and using money, that day and onward till the government changes, everyone in the U.S. instead would steal things needed and/or wanted? What could the government do to stop that? There is no law on walking out on a job is there? I figure only certain top notch bi*ch ass government official employees would keep working in their field to try to run the U.S. and give it order. I also figure certain doctors wouldnt be able to walk out to boycott money because that may cause deaths of certain ppl. So these certian doctors would have to stay working to avoid big time penalties. (BTW, are there any other crucial jobs that would have to have workers keep working besides certain doctors attending to certain patiants any of you know of?) Anyhow, I think this could work to change the current corrupt U.S. government into a better government that doesnt want to face anarchy. If we all cant have enough money to make it in life then none of us should have money and we should just all steal to equal things out for all citizens. What say you on this matter? What would a boycott of money cause? Or rather, what would a national worker walk out and strike cause in this nation?
I say its potentially a good idea definitly. But I don't think enough people would go through with it.
If you could get enough people to just get up, walk out, and sit down outside and not move until the government bowed down to us (as it should) then we could have change right now. But would enough people do this? I think a slower protest sort of along the lines you mentioned would be to stop being part of the insanely consumer driven economy. Big corporations and big government thrive on people spending money. What would happen if suddenly people changed their spending habits? Don't get into debt, get out if you are, don't buy big name brands and/or those products produced by big corporations, don't shop at the big corporate stores, be more of a saver than a spender, reuse and get/buy second hand and used items instead of buying new, and try to live below the level of income where you have to pay taxes. Hit them were it hurts the most in the most peaceful and legal ways.
It's true that money does effectively hold most Americans in slavery. But I don't think something like that is necessary. What people need to do is just start standing up and refusing to cooperate when the government tries to take more of their rights away. Complacency is the obstacle that needs to be overcome. They're only on the top because we're all holding them up. It's time to let them fall. When they come out with their new fascistic policies, people just have to say, "Tough shit, I'm not getting a National ID Card." Just like that. Because it's a slippery slope. People just agree to things they don't like for the sake of convenience. "It'll be easier if I just go along with it." But the problem is, it doesn't end there. You go for the ID Card, then it'll be microchips. Microchips are a definite part of the agenda. Don't let them put one in you.
there already are microchips man. the way they are making the rf ids sound, if you refuse to carry one you must be a terrorist right? i think its is a combination of fear and convenience that keeps us under the control of the government.if we can let go of our sweet suburbia lives where everything is so close and convenient then we might have a chance. there are so many small things that you can do during your day that could have an impact. if enough people did those small things everyday, they wouldn't be so small anymore...honestly i could go on about this forever. but anyways, the point is that we need more participation and more people willing to sacrifice convenience and stand up to "the man" and just peacefully say no we aren't going to live like this anymore. i like your idea, its a meaningful one. but people cant just steal everything. it would create chaos. maybe a bartering system instead?
I know there are already microships. They're small enough to be inserted via hypodermic needles. But they aren't mandatory at the moment. That is the goal, and if people go for that, they will be completely screwed. You see, even though the chips can track you and monitor your body, the messages going from the chip to the computer are nowhere near as serious as the ones going the other way: computer to chip. Because, with these chips, they can actually manipulate your body. They can make you violent or docile, raise or lower your sex drive, and other things of this nature. And they can do it individually or en masse. If people accept these implants, there is no going back.
We all caved on pre-employment screenings, first it was drugs now it's credit. We were sold that it would protect our safety. Then we were sold HMO's and deregulation. What it did was make us more maleable and liable to agree to anything in order to get a job or insurance. The public should have followed Nalancer's advice then.
Non-cooperation and peaceful resistance - Meaning if a Government official demands something do not give them your obideance no matter if they kill you. Do not purchase anything from government live simmply as possible have one set of clothes. And walk as often as possible share cars. Quote from wikipedia "The nonviolent approach to social struggle represents a radical departure from conventional thinking about both power and conflict, and yet appeals to a number of widely shared values and everyday ethics." Protest marches , Public meetings,virgils etc... non-cooperation-refusal to pay taxes refusal to be bailed from prison etc... physical intervention - Blockades,sit-ins,occupations Hunger strikes, pickets, vigils, petitions, sit-ins, tax refusal, go-slows, blockades, draft refusal and public demonstrations are some of the specific techniques This is a list of non-violent actions FORMAL STATEMENTS Public speeches Letters of opposition or support Declarations by organizations and institutions Signed public declarations Declarations of indictment and intention Group or mass petitions COMMUNICATIONS WITH A WIDER AUDIENCE Slogans, caricatures, and symbols Banners, posters, and displayed communications Leaflets, pamphlets, and books Newspapers and journals Records, radio, and television Skywriting and earthwriting GROUP REPRESENTATIONS Deputations Mock awards Group lobbying Picketing Mock elections SYMBOLIC PUBLIC ACTS Displays of flags and symbolic colours Wearing of symbols Prayer and worship Delivering symbolic objects Protest disrobings Destruction of own property Symbolic lights Displays of portraits Paint as protest New signs and names Symbolic sounds Symbolic reclamations Rude gestures PRESSURES ON INDIVIDUALS "Haunting" officials Taunting officials Fraternization Vigils DRAMA AND MUSIC Humourous skits and pranks Performances of plays and music Singing PROCESSIONS Marches Parades Religious processions Pilgrimages Motorcades HONOURING THE DEAD Political mourning Mock funerals Demonstrative funerals Homage at burial places PUBLIC ASSEMBLIES Assemblies of protest or support Protest meetings Camouflaged meetings of protest Teach-ins WITHDRAWAL AND RENUNCIATION Walk-outs Silence Renouncing honours Turning one's back THE METHODS OF SOCIAL NONCOOPERATION OSTRACISM OF PERSONS Social boycott Selective social boycott Lysistratic nonaction Excommunication Interdict NONCOOPERATION WITH SOCIAL EVENTS, CUSTOMS, AND INSTITUTIONS Suspension of social and sports activities Boycott of social affairs Student strike Social disobedience Withdrawal from social institutions WITHDRAWAL FROM THE SOCIAL SYSTEM Stay-at-home Total personal noncooperation "Flight" of workers Sanctuary Collective disappearance Protest emigration (hijrat) THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOPERATION: ECONOMIC BOYCOTTS ACTION BY CONSUMERS Consumers' boycott Nonconsumption of boycotted goods Policy of austerity Rent withholding Refusal to rent National consumers' boycott International consumers' boycott ACTION BY WORKERS AND PRODUCERS Workers' boycott Producers' boycott ACTION BY MIDDLEMEN Suppliers' and handlers' boycott ACTION BY OWNERS AND MANAGEMENT Traders' boycott Refusal to let or sell property Lockout Refusal of industrial assistance Merchants' "general strike" ACTION BY HOLDERS OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES Withdrawal of bank deposits Refusal to pay fees, dues, and assessments Refusal to pay debts or interest Severance of funds and credit Revenue refusal Refusal of a government's money ACTION BY GOVERNMENTS Domestic embargo Blacklisting of traders International sellers' embargo International buyers' embargo International trade embargo THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOOPERATION: THE STRIKE SYMBOLIC STRIKES Protest strike Quickie walkout (lightning strike) AGRICULTURAL STRIKES Peasant strike 100. Farm workers' strike STRIKES BY SPECIAL GROUPS Refusal of impressed labour Prisoners' strike Craft strike Professional strike ORDINARY INDUSTRIAL STRIKES Establishment strike Industry strike Sympathy strike RESTRICTED STRIKES Detailed strike Bumper strike Slowdown strike Working-to-rule strike Reporting "sick" (sick-in) Strike by resignation Limited strike Selective strike MULTI-INDUSTRY STRIKES Generalised strike General strike COMBINATION OF STRIKES AND ECONOMIC CLOSURES Hartal Economic shutdown THE METHODS OF POLITICAL NONCOOPERATION REJECTION OF AUTHORITY Withholding or withdrawal of allegiance Refusal of public support Literature and speeches advocating resistance CITIZENS' NONCOOPERATION WITH GOVERNMENT Boycott of legislative bodies Boycott of elections Boycott of government employment and positions Boycott of government departments, agencies, and other bodies Withdrawal from governmental educational institutions Boycott of government-supported institutions Refusal of assistance to enforcement agents Removal of own signs and placemarks Refusal to accept appointed officials Refusal to dissolve existing institutions CITIZENS' ALTERNATIVES TO OBEDIENCE Reluctant and slow compliance Nonobedience in absence of direct supervision Popular nonobedience Disguised disobedience Refusal of an assemblage or meeting to disperse Sitdown Noncooperation with conscription and deportation Hiding, escape, and false identities Civil disobedience of "illegitimate" laws ACTION BY GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL Selective refusal of assistance by government aides Blocking of lines of command and information Stalling and obstruction General administrative noncooperation Judicial noncooperation Deliberate inefficiency and selective noncooperation by enforcement agents Mutiny DOMESTIC GOVERNMENTAL ACTION Quasi-legal evasions and delays Noncooperation by constituent governmental units INTERNATIONAL GOVERNMENTAL ACTION Changes in diplomatic and other representation Delay and cancellation of diplomatic events Withholding of diplomatic recognition Severance of diplomatic relations Withdrawal from international organisations Refusal of membership in international bodies Expulsion from international organisations THE METHODS OF NONVIOLENT INTERVENTION PSYCHOLOGICAL INTERVENTION Self-exposure to the elements The fast a) Fast of moral pressure b) Hunger strike c) Satyagrahic fast Reverse trial Nonviolent harassment PHYSICAL INTERVENTION Sit-in Stand-in Ride-in Wade-in Mill-in Pray-in Nonviolent raids Nonviolent air raids Nonviolent invasion Nonviolent interjection Nonviolent obstruction Nonviolent occupation SOCIAL INTERVENTION Establishing new social patterns Overloading of facilities Stall-in Speak-in Guerrilla theatre Alternative social institutions Alternative communication system ECONOMIC INTERVENTION Reverse strike Stay-in strike Nonviolent land seizure Defiance of blockades Politically motivated counterfeiting Preclusive purchasing Seizure of assets Dumping Selective patronage Alternative markets Alternative transportation systems Alternative economic institutions POLITICAL INTERVENTION Overloading of administrative systems Disclosing identities of secret agents Seeking imprisonment Civil disobedience of "neutral" laws Work-on without collaboration Dual sovereignty and parallel government
Not anarachy...personal responsibility and involvement in government, it's what the US constitution is based on, contrary to what Bush and Cheney would like you to believe. They feel our government is based on executive rule. They also should be accountable to the American Public at large (Election does not grant kinghood!). I find it hard to understand how we can spread democracy while we allow the very fabric of the constitution to be rendered irrelevant by the constant use of executive priveledge without accountability. The congress is also complicent in that they have allowed these abuses.
Our founders and the drafters of the constitution gave us the tools to stop this. If we don't trade our rights for false promises of security. All you gun lovers what good are your guns if your no longer have any other freedoms. Maybe... that you will have the proper firearms to go quail hunting with Cheney?
^Dont you realize the forces that would be against them not to mention a violent revolution would put them into a extreme minority. Would good is a shotgun against an f-16? Why not us something that all men possess the ability to refuse cooperation? Wouldnt a violent insurrection only validate them using force against us?
this a realy good idea. some anarchist collectives do similiar things on smaller scales. basically they all go in to a store. and load up on what they need and all run/walk out at the same time.
You just made my favorite thread i've seen in quite sometime, because of the inquisitiveness of it. You acknowledge you don't understand how this would affect the government and society, but know enough to know that you don't and lack the stupid pride that so many people have. If that didn't make sense, it was a compliment. A boycott of money would be incredibly ineffective simply because of the way the world monetary system works. What would essentially happen (if literally every non-essential worker left work can't really be gauged; my estimatation would be that the resulting firings would crush the United States economy, and as a result the major importing countries (ones that export to the US) would suffer. As a result of this, China and other major importers would sell off their cash reserves, crashign the United States currency. "If we all cant have enough money to make it in life then none of us should have money and we should just all steal to equal things out for all citizens." Your third paragraph is utterly misguided. The problem with the idea presented is that it ignores the production of the goods and the money it takes to make them. Were everybody to steal items to even the world out, then the stores would go out of business rather quickly. Their purchasing power would decrease, and their quantity of items purchase would be reduced, while price increases. This causes inflation, which is the reduction in the value of money. Were this to happen on a large scale in the United States suddenly, a huge number of jobs would be lost, furthering the cycle. But as these stores lose money, the manufacturers and the jobs there would decrease as operating costs increase and sales decrease. The cycle continues to where nearly everyone is poor and needs to steal, but there is no production and we all die.
His message is the most rational...just say no, the Government sold young people on that with drugs and sex, it's time we as a society woke up and bought into it's simplicity. Just say NO! like Nalencer outlined.