Abortion, (esp live birth abortions..)

Discussion in 'Birth Control' started by StpLSD25, Jan 24, 2013.

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  1. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    are cruel. The fact of the matter, is that the "fetus," is a child. It's a different word, so people don't feel bad about it; But one would have no reason to assume that the fetus would be born unhealthy nor unhappy.

    But even if you believe in a women's right to choose, live birth abortions are especially inhuman. They pull these babies out, literally breathing and crying sometimes, and put them in a bucket to die. By that time, it IS a fuckin' baby!!!

    You Liberals can bash on me all you want; But the truth is, you're defending something sick and twisted!
     
  2. SunDweller1989

    SunDweller1989 Member

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    It's a form of population control. We have Planned Parenthood to thank for helping to carry out the 21st century genocide. I'm sorry but murder shouldn't be a choice, even if it is your body.
     
  3. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    Obvious troll thread is obvious.
     
  4. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    A libertarian who thinks that the government should be able to tell women what to do with their bodies... interesting.
     
  5. Jo King

    Jo King wannabe

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    You're cute
     
  6. SunDweller1989

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    How come if someone is opposed to abortion it's considered trollish and frowned upon? You know freedom and liberties apply to everyone. Not only you. It allows everyone to speak freely and to share their thoughts.

    I'm opposed to abortion. Because it's murder. Why does a "new" human have less rights than a "grown" human? Now I used to think abortion was awesome because it was a featureless little doll that one could pick up and crush to take out all their frustrations on, etc. But then I realized that just because it's unable to speak, because it's "incomplete" does not mean that it should be snuffed. No chance given, no hope. I can write other examples that compare with it but I won't. I'll just say it's horrid.

    But, if the pregnancy poses a threat to the mother, then if no other solutions can be executed, then the bullet must be bit. It's like killing animals. Just because it can't speak, write, draw, organize, argue "intelligently" doesn't mean it should be tortured, vivisected, neglected, abused. I don't know killing something is sick.

    And I eat meat occasionally. Mostly vegetables. But meat is gross to me. Fish, pork, beef, all that kind of makes me sick. Along with insects, killing them to me is heinous. And I can only imagine what hacking a plant away does to its consciousness.
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, normalizing abortion all ties in with the promotion of promiscuity, which is what the ones in control want to destory the family and create disorder in society so people can be more easily controlled.

    I am not in favor of abortion being outlawed, nor do I support it. It simply is what it is. They want people taking sides and parroting all the talking points given to them.
     
  8. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Childbirth is cruel. Why don't you try it sometime, and tell us what you think of the experience? Oh wait...
     
  9. calgirl

    calgirl Senior Member

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    Abortion will never be illegal. That's a given. It puzzles me that these debates are about the rights of women. What are the rights of an innocent life?
     
  10. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Moral of the story?

    If you're having unprotected sex with someone, make sure their ethics are in line with yours. Better yet - Have them sign a pre-sex contract giving you full rights to their body for nine months and your off spring for the next 25 years.

    Kind of kills the moment?

    Sorry. You can't have it both ways.
     
  11. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    How the fuck is abortion a form of birth control and why is it in this section? Yep, obvious.
     
  12. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    If I ever go back to college, maybe I should wear a T-shirt to parties that says, "Kiss Me, I'm Pro-Choice". :D
    :leaving:
     
  13. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    ^^^ Awesome. :)

    Cause, obviously anyone that is "pro-choice" (a loaded phrase to begin with) treats abortion as a form of birth control.

    Just like anyone that is "pro-life" (another loaded phrase) is a whacko right-wing christian.

    It's the easiest way to deal with an issue for some, rather than actually contemplate an issue in depth. Just paint the issue as black and white and line up both sides.

    Since 1973, have we come any farther than changing the name of the issue from pro-abortion/anti-abortion to pro-choice/pro-life ?
     
  14. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Probably not, since some don't spend too much time thinking about it until it happens to them or someone they love. You know - It's not real until it's real.
     
  15. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    ^^^ :sunny:

    In other words, the basis for compassion?
     
  16. calgirl

    calgirl Senior Member

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    Pro life is extraordinarily full of compassion in that first and foremost is preservation of life. Yet, very few will look at a suffering woman and let that warp their ability to exercise wisdom. Contrast to pro-choice where it is NEVER about the unborn, and ONLY about the woman regardless if she has been irresponsible.
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Thank you.
     
  18. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Can you think of another concise way to say on a T-shirt, "A condom failure on your part is not going to result in 18 years of child support payments" ? :D

    To be perfectly honest, pro-abortion is a better label for me. It wouldn't bother me if somebody got an abortion every month, because that's what some birth control methods do. People are getting afraid to say it out loud when they think an abortion is not a big deal, because of the risk of being severely mistreated by the other side. Reality check: If you say abortion should be extremely rare but legal, they aren't going to like you much better. You may as well be honest, and take the verbal abuse like an adult.
     
  19. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I meant that abortion is not a fun topic and that some people will never care to think about it until they are forced to.
     
  20. Piaf

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    I completely agree with you.
    I would type more about it but it's pointless on this forum.
    Anything can pass these days, if it's called ''freedom'' or ''choice''.
     
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