Ok, anyone who says that LSD flashbacks don't exist can suck it. I have had several (I would say 3) absolutely RIDICULOUS flashbacks, as in at least 80% of the effects of the acid came back to me. Keep in mind this is after dosing a grand total of ONE TIME. These flashbacks were always precipitated by weed use, and I was usually tired already. I have a lot of theories about this. I think tripping is a subjective reality that is very similar to a dream state. That's why when you're tired and begin to "let go" you can have flashbacks. Of course, weed relaxes you and makes you let go as well. Now, I just had a panic attack in the shower because I thought I was aobut to have a full blown flashback when I haven't even smoked any weed in well over 12 hours. That is a kind of scary thought. What triggered it was feeling the inside of my mouth believe it or not. When I tripped the first time, I could not get over the feeling of my teeth and skull. It was like a felt my jaw and skull and the absurdity of my body for the first time. I was in the shower and feeling the roof of my mouth and my retainer (I have a permanent retainer on the back of my upper teeth), and I started to feel it again. All of a sudden panic struck, and I started feeling tingly, and things started looking weird. I was able to think myself down from it, but it was scary. I only slept about 5 hours last night, and I actually had a flashback last night, one of my most intense ones, with open eye visuals and everything, and I think the combo of some lingering weed effects and tiredness and the memory of last night's flashback (which was probably as traumatic as if someone had dosed my drink with one tab) combined to cause this near-flashback. What have other people experienced in this department? Now, shortly after I tripped, certain things in the room where I tripped would move the way they did when I tripped, but only when I was very tired and purposefully zoned out. What I experienced in the shower sounded VERY MUCH like "depersonalization disorder," which is basically where you feel ego-death and a separation from your body for like 30 seconds-5 minutes randomly, and these attacks can be persistent. Really scary to think about.... Now don't get me wrong, I am proud that I tried acid and I am a proud toker and think exploring ego-death and other modes of reality is great and all of that, but it is crucial that we recognize the tremendous power of what we are dealing with here. It's really disturbing to think about how little we know about this stuff - acid, shrooms, pot, you name it. We don't know shit. It's crazy. What are your thoughts? The first thing I need to do is take a freaking nap... I think that will help greatly because the more rested you are the more grounded in reality you are and the less likely you are to slip through the "doors of perception"... I might trip again, but I think it's going to be a WHILE from now. I'm still dealing with my first trip, which was about 6 months ago!!!
That kind of makes sense that weed would trigger a flashback.. Though its weird that they are full blown flashbacks as you say. If you had a good trip on the acid then just enjoy the flashbacks man.
Yeah that's true - it was overall a positive experience but definitely traumatic. It was frightening at times. That is another hypothesis I meant to throw out in the first post - a lot of people seem to think the intensity (especially in a negative way) of your acid experience has a lot to do with your potential for flashbacking. If the acid scares you tremendously, you are likely to later have violent flashback memories of it just as war veterans do, etc.
Yeah you're totally right, I think about that. Sometimes its hard to tell and sometimes we just assume. I assume that when some visuals go with strange feelings that might be a flashback. But thats just me.. Who really knows?
I get flashbacks all the time, they usually dont last very long, and are on the edges of my vision. I don't see them as a problem though. Also I've always had closed eye visuals, I was born with that. I close my eyes and see lights spin, and dance around, and colors form, so that doesnt even effect me, acid and shrooms just make these visuals more intricate, and clearer. Also if you're panicing man, you can be causing the flashbacks yourself. Lucid dreams and what not. Try to relax, next time you think you're about to have a flashback think "yay free trip" thats what I do. Infact when a flashback occurs, I try usually for about 2 mins to get it back, im like GOD DAMMIT IT WENT AWAY!
I'm pretty sure everyone sees colors dance when they close their eyes.. Its also possible to hallucinate without drugs.
I agree with everything that has been said, except that I also had the crazy feeling of depersonalization along with the visuals. The shower incident was the really scary one because I wasn't stoned at the time. I was feeling the unmistakable sensation of my consciousness being separated from my body, like you feel on a trip. There are people who get this without ever tripping and it is considered a mental disorder, which is what really freaked me out. I think a good part of it was that I was really tired, having slept only 5 hours the night before. Who knows, I will keep the board updated if it happens again.
From my experience in coming to terms with how crazy and down right freaky depersonalisation is, i would completely stop smoking weed. that way you may find it easier to decide what is going on in hour head- becasue if you are putting weed in you (wjich nowadays is a real strong pychedlic to many) you are not seeing things through a sober eye, and wont be able to work out what are persisting problems and what are short term problems- and have faith, this might mean not smoking for months, but what is worse- not smoking, or getting more confused or paranoid with your position. for the shower? visuals always come on stronger in the shower for me too- possibly becasue of the steam and hot temps?
yeah yeah yeah after the second time I tripped on acid, every time I smoked weed I tripped - not 80 %, maybe like 50 % but if that's what flashbacks are then yeah they're real - even without doing anything, for like 3-5 days after the trip, I had minor flashbacks - flashing back to the peak where I was flying through space - much less intense though of course
Did the flashbacks ever decrease in frequency, and if so how long did it take before it did and by how much did they decrease? Did they ever completely stop? I've gotten it under control I think after a couple more nights almost tripping.
schizophrenia and an acid trip is completely different. there is absolutely nothing recreational or insightful about being schizophrenic. taking acid simply allows elements of schizophrenia to surface as parts of a trip, when normally these schizophrenic urges of the brain would be kept under control by the much more rigid structure of the sober mind compared to the psychedelic mind.
StonerBill, what you are saying is no different than what earlyx said. Elements of schizophrenia are present in an acid trip. We all agree on this. They aren't "completely different" although certainly what many schizophrenics experience has little or nothing to do with what many people experience on acid.
schizophrenics have a part of their mind who keeps them away from reality. When you are on lsd, this is keeping you away from reality reality, you might wanna start to do rational stuff cleaning and stuff, but This is always keeping you away. I imagine that's what schiophrenics experience, but they have a This of their own, and dont always realize its there, comes and goes. With lsd I always notice that...crazy thought while the visuals evolve, then get away and say wtf that waas far off...a duality , but on acid you can stand back and have rational thoughts about your state. Stimpy has Ren Schizophrenia means split mind, nothin to do with split personality though.
My flashbacks always disappear after a week or 2 of not using shrooms or acid. And who cares if LSD makes you schizophrenic for 12 hours? It wears off, you come down, you hallucinated, you had some insight possibly, does it really matter? Technically it's just similar, its in no way the same thing, ones drug induced, the others a naturally occuring mental disorder.
Flashbacks are real, of course. But I have a question about that.. After the first time I tripped hard on acid, I smoked weed after I came down and then had a really bad trip because it activates the acid again and pot isn't my best friend anyway... Do you think that could have happened like a few days after like you've said you've tripped from smoking pot a few days after doing acid? Cuz I just did acid like Thursday, and tomorrow is 4-20, so I'm wondering if like that could at any chance activate that acid again? That probably wasn't worded the best way, my apologies.. and maybe its a dumb question but like I said pot isn't my best friend.
It depends - I had trouble smoking weed for about three months after my most recent trip. During that time, only a few times did I feel ok about smoking and only recently (as in...yesterday) did I have a really good time smoking and no bad thoughts (except in the basement of my friend's frat's house...shit was trippin me out after smoking a five foot bong). You should be fine, just go into it with the idea of having a good time, you'll be alright.
I wish i could have some LSD effects from smoking bud. I've done it 3 times, twice at concerts, and I smoke alot of pot. But maybe its all the pot that i smoke that is the reason why i don't have flashbacks. Pot keeps me normal, rather than enhancing my third eye I guess
