acid and schizophrenia

has anyone here dropped acid and also been diagnosed schizophrenic (even mildly)? doesn't matter if you dropped before/after onset.

i'm just wondering how similar the experiences tend to be (subjectively of course). i've only dropped twice, but both times i've experienced "symptoms" more or less completely in line with descriptions of schizophrenia. everything from visual hallucinations of faces contorting into menacing looks, to hearing people talking about me outside the room, straneg sensations and generally intrusive and distracting perceptions. i recently watchd a video in my psychology class about schizophrenia and the visual recreation of a schizo experience struck me; it was SO similar to my acid experiences.

i'm sure the similarity has been brought up before, i'm just wondering if anyone on here might be able to compare the two firsthand (although obviously a schizophrenic may have a very different LSD experience than a normal person)

 

Well not schizo., but I used to get all that shit until I broke through with acid, and let go of all basic human instincts (fear, greed, etc.)

 

i don't mean general human emotions... like, i actually heard people saying "he's pissing all over the floor, what the hell he's so fucked up" about me. actually seeing faces contort and feeling and energy change when nothing really happened, etc. the kinds of things that are fascinating but would really interfere with basic functioning if they persisted. in other words, psychotic symptoms.

 

Terrence McKenna once meet a man who said..."I can see into peoples souls"....I wouldnt call something like that Schizo, more like being gifted?

But ive heard of people being Schizo...Take a walk through the Village of NYC, so many people just in a daze beacause of acid....There was this one guy sitting on a bench just mumbling to himself looking amazed as fuck..I said to myself "no more acid for him for awhile"..Schizo or gifted?

Watch some MTV, A show called True life- Iam a Schizo haha....But you were talking about while on acid, its the after affects that would make someone a schizo...In my mind

 

also if anyone ever goes to nyc i recomend the village as a trip...Lots of freaks, smoke shops, lesbians, gays, bisexuals, weirdos, its just a fun place

 

Dude that's exactly what I'm talking about though.
I had the SAME shit.
Actually EXACTLY the same.
As is said with DMT which also holds true for all psychedelics is that you can't give in to amazement.

 

I think schizophrenia and tripping are very similar in some respects and probably rather different in others.

Essentially, they are both a deviation from standard reality, which leads to novel perceptions, paranoia, insecurities, emotional upheval, etc.

However the precise way that reality is being remodulated may be rather different in schizophrenic type disorders vs. tripping on psychedelic drugs

 

cats drawn by someone which schizophrenia. or were they drawn by someone on a ten strip?

 

Ah yes, Louis Wain - gotta love him!



He went from drawing the outward cat to the essence of the cat, yet they called him mad!

The effects of LSD are very similar to the schizophrenic experience, as are the effects of scopolamine........the beauty of the chemical experience is that it at least wears off over time

 

that bottom left one is what DPT visuals look like lol

 

I agree with StonerBill. The initial promise of psychedelic drugs was to allow for the study of emulated schizophrenia in the laboratory, but we've since discovered that they don't work that way.

 

hmm thanks for the input.

oh well, mental illness and psychedelic drugs in general (even when considered seperately) both fascinate me.

 

If you are really experiencing psychotic symptoms from psychedelic drug use, you'd be better off not pushing yourself over the edge... your mind is all you've got.

 

i don't mind going psychotic on psychedelic drugs... that's why they're great.

the important thing is that i'm not psychotic when i'm off of them. i'm a lot of things when i'm sober but i'm definitely sane.

basically.

 

I see nothing wrong with sitting on a bench mumbling to ones self, what I don't get is people thinking that the person who does that should stop. That to me is insanity. I like my business so I mind it. If I minded other peoples business too then I would be wandering off my impeccable road to go roll around in wastefulness. Only time I felt psychotic though was on a mushroom trip and I was totally comfortable in the idea that I had lost my mind, it was a very calming and at certain moments hectic roller coaster.

 

Iam happy iam not that guy though, i mean everyone listening imagine what he was thinking, if anything i wouldnt be surprised if hes still the same way he is...Lets say a prayer and pray for the lost soul of acid that floats around mindlessly...Wait a second, i dont know what iam saying...Lets change topic haha or go back to the orignal one at hand haha

 

the moments in my life where i have had the most dangerous and insane thoughts, i was stone cold sober.

when i'm tripping i can take care of small children.

 

Sometimes i dont make any sense lol...As for taking care of small children while tripping...I think not lol just because i would be tripping lol

 

When I was coming up from a year-long period where I took about..... 500 hits...

I felt like.....

a reptile.... a hunter... a farmer... a serviceman.... a trader/banker.... and briefly Benjamin Franklin....