so iv been told this weekend we should be pretty much deffinatly be able to get some tabs again. iv done acid once. but me and girlfriend, iv only known her for like couple weeks, want to do it together. we plan on buying tonns of glowsticks and sparklers, and basically cause we cant stay in her house cause her parents will be sleeping, we are planning on sitting in the back of my car for most of the time, or when we feel energetic walk around a bit to the park and stuff. cause we do alot of sittin in the back of my car were used to it alot. but do you think that would be a good idea. we like each other a fair bit. only thing im worried about, is she used to cut herself a bit, and im not sure about her state of mind. i really wouldnt want to be stuck with her the whole time if she spiraled into a bad trip, but im sure if we were together and being in such a relaxed environment i could talk her out of it, ill bring some like mozart and rellaxed music to put on if such a thing was to happen. as long as i dont get some smart ass idea, like to drive down to the store or somthing. and im sure we'll probably have sex on it. is it hard to get it up i guess the mind may stray. but i think taking acid together will bring us closer, and its her first time takign acid. its somthing neither of us will ever forget. what do you think. should be all sweet?
i think you should know by now the unpredictable nature of taking drugs for the first time. how many of your strange experiences did you expect to have? just take it chill and give yourself lots of options. like places to go, plenty of blankets and stuff if youre gonna be in a random place, music, drinks, sugar, etc. you know the drill, man. i hope this girl meshes with you, pp
what do you mean by """how many of your strange experiences did you expect to have?""" they will only get stranger
Well, im not going to fill in for the other guy, but strange things happen.... You can be papers and scissors with her, but with a bit of tripping things can go strange. She cut herself right, SO what? its something to keep in mind, but nature has a way of keeping things in line. Dont just sit in a car, dont just walk randomly. Tripping is a period of time between points A and B. that distance is unpredictable, and you should be aware that anything can happen, being thoughts of depressing or total bliss. It dosnt really matter what you do, I shouldnt be doing this right now but im bored. Point is, take the acid, and enjoy LIFE. Not the activities you do while persuing life. Take the lead and find something new, there is uncharted terriroty, in which anyone can find, stuff that may be unusual or consensual.... fuck im drunk lol. Just clear a path, turn off autopilot, and go somewhere, think of something. things go bad, of good. It will all be history. ill be waiting for the "Idiot" posts, but i feel fine, and im talking about peace of mind.
nah man. your no idiot. you sound very wise. i understnd what your saying and how you see it, and im glad to have read what you wrote, and tried to see it the same way. but thats why i post on these forums, for that exact reason.
actually im not sure if its a good idea she took acid. but at the same time i think it would open her eyes and hopfully make her apreciate shit more -she used to cut herself, still might -she's gothic -she seems to be a bad state of mind, like thinks badly about living. for some reason we were talkin about children and she's like pretty strongly apposed of bringing somone in to this life to suffer. sooo thats her state of mind. i was saying how like how magnificant conscioness is and how peoples perception allways change, and you can never say never. and shit... fuckin hell she got all weird and shit. shes startin to piss me off. ill give her acid, hope she see's things differntly about everything, but if she goes crazy. well that will be it. heh
yea just give it to her, and let us know how she acted.. if it makes her go crazy, just use the "oh well she would have gone crazy anyway" or maybe the "well she was actually already crazy" argument heh but nah seriously i imagine it could go either way... either her eyes will open and she will appreciate life more.. or it'll be the opposite and all the negatives will be amplified, but yea you can always talk a person through that sort of thing.. good luck mang
biggest concern is that you can't go home, have several options for things to do because sitting in a car might get to be a drag and you don't want to feel trapped. if she's goth she's already weird so acid mgiht be less weird than if a straight person took it. is she over the edge or is she just playiong a role? always a risk for someone with serious pscychological problems.
i think you guys will be fine. she likes you and feels safe around so it sounds like she wouldnt have any bad thoughts to cut herself or feel like she needs to.
if you worry too much you will create a bad trip for the both of you. just let go and see where the acid takes you. be excited about a good trip and that is what you will have. and even if something does go bad - tell yourself that whatever happens you will make the best of it and get through it just fine. an acid trip can be just as much a learning experience as it is a good time. be positive and love it. and sex is great on acid. if and when you are in the mood go for it.
i have deffinatly decided against it. she seems way to unstable. we've been getting drunk alot together, and theres allways like periods where she will get sooo depressed and have to talk to her and shit, then she'll be like forgotton and hi and shit. and i was thinkin to myself when i was talkin to her, would i want to be on acid right now, and she goes all fuckin weird. hell no. but not just that , lots of little things she says, she sounds like she has mild mental problems and she hardly ever takes drugs, either that or she's lieing, i dont know.
i think u should just mention it to her see what she says if she thinks shed like it then give her a mild dose and if she doesnt want to then dont pressur her nto something she dont wanna do cause then u willl have a problem on ur hands... even tho she has some problem ill bet shes stonger than u give her credit for... who knows maybe its tha one thing she needs to "let go" and forget or learn to deal with.. some ppl think im wrong for sayin this but acid is what helped me find god i was on a destructive path until one spiritual night and nothings been tha same every since...
maybe. she completly wants to try it tho. she also wants to try pills. so i think this weekend were gonna do pills. ill see how it goes, and maybe perhaps after some time we'll drop acid together.
The problem here is that if she has an underlying mental problem, there's a possibility she'll go completely insane. Not she'll act weird on the drug, she'll be schizophrenic or something of the sort for the rest of her life. There are other ways to deal with your problems (for example, meditation leads to the same endpoint as LSD, DMT, psilocybin, mesacline, etc.) that don't risk her sanity.
I'd suggest not doing acid with this girl, my friend was in a similar situation only the girl was more normal than yours sounds, it turned out horribly, they had a really bad time and found out they dont connect at all, I say dont waste the acid. Also, IMO if the girl is meant for you, tripping with her would be the most fufilling experience of your life, or as I put it "IT".
Hahahaah! you are avery wise 19 year old. I like you. Agree 100% empty vacuous and highly thrilling. Thats about it. As for doing LSD with a girlfired yes. With teh one you have. NO. thing about mental problems a lot of teh time is that its teh inability (not due to wekaness but due to teh illness) to deal with things and work them out. Times that inability but a thousand on LSD then yo're going ot have a whole load of crap you're unable to deal with. If she sounds nutty and loopy and its mor than simple PMT I'd stay away from LSD. and pot for that matter.
Yea, she sounds like she could dull your trip, you dont want someone depressed around you, and if shes so negative all the time, acids not for her. She'll end up having a bad trip or she'll open some doors that are supposed to be closed. Try taking mdma, just pure powder. no pills. and dont snort that shit. it burns. drink it.
Why would MDMA be any better? Early research points to it having an effect on the neurotransmitters of the brain, possibly causing or aggravating depression in certain people. So why would you consider giving it (or any psychoactive drug) to someone with a preexisting psychiatric condition? Id call that irresponsible unless the person was well informed of the possible consequences. Giving it to an uninformed individual with a preexisting psych condition is no different than giving it to a child. Thats bad news man. The risk isnt worth the potential harm.