Hello all, it's been quite a while and many great experiences have passed by. Hopefully the world has been as kind to you as it has to me. With that being said I am posting this thread here because I come from an LSD background and quite frankly I love the insightful advice I've gotten here in the past. So I was wondering if anyone is experienced with this combination/timing: Setting: Large crowd, outdoor rave, favorite artists T0:00 - 150ug LSD T2:00 - 115mg MDMA T6:00 - 15mg 2c-b I've experienced LSD alone ~7 times, candyflipped twice once with MDMA and another time with Methylone. Rolled maybe 4 times. Never have tried 2c-b/honeyflip. I believe I've got the timings perfected, my only question is how the 2c-b will affect the flip. What's the vibe going to be like after taking the 2c-b? Thanks:sunny:
You can't really foresee the outcome. Mixing these three is very dangerous itself. On one side you are risking serotonin syndrome, on other very powerfull psychedelic experience. I'd say take more time before mixing them. The more the safer you are.
what's a honeyflip? I would advise against trying 2c-b, or any substance, for the first time while on two other major substances. I would also advise against doing this combo in a large crowd in public. I don't know what kind of venue this is, what your plans are for getting home etc, but you need to know that adding 2cb to this is going to pretty much floor you to the earth man. 2cb has a VERY strong body high and powerful sensory effects, so having all that magnified by LSD, and getting all the effects from the LSD dose, AND then rolling face is a looooot to do in a public place. I have nexus flipped once before (LSD + 2cb) and it is an extremely "dense" experience in the sens that every moment of time and area of space is just brimming and exploding with sensation, color, meaning . . . it's really, really heavy and I would never think "god this could really use a full dose of MDMA" lol. it's ball meltingly euphoric and wildly psychedelic. you need to try 2cb on its first for safety primarily
I believe nexus flipping and honey flipping share the same meaning. Did you take the 2cb right before the comedown as Shulgin suggests or both at the same time? This is interesting as forums with a more "harm-reduction" philosophy consistently describe 2c-b as being mild compared to LSD. If it helps the venue will be a festival similar to EDC held in march:afro:. We have a group of six or so and three of us are going to candyflip one of those days. One of our friends has a place a few blocks from the venue. I don't believe in rolling more than once for the three days. Pretty much just going to drink/smoke the 1st day, flip the 2nd, and either smoke or consider some 2c-b on the 3rd although there will probably be tolerance issues if I'm not wrong. Though I generally don't encourage it, I have valium in case things get a bit too out of hand.
Honey flipping and nexus flipping both refer to a combo of MDMA and 2cb. I've done a nexus flip without the acid, that was good for me. The transition from the MDMA to the 2cb is pretty seamless if you time it near the MDMA comedown without fully coming down, it becomes increasingly trippy and the MDMA seemed to have potentiated the 2cb dose. Definitely make sure to stay hydrated. You also may want to make sure you have a spot to lay around if necessary when you dose the 2cb.
Whoops I was thinking nexus flip = LSD + 2cb, forgot the "flip" is always MDMA. In that case I still nexus flipped once before, it was nuts . I like honey flip as a term, it does feel like your body is submerged in honey or cream. 2cb IS mild compared to LSD . . . but you wanna combine all three that's a whole other story. I'd save it. Sorry I don't know anything about your venue but I've never been to a public event or function that would be conducive to such a combination of drugs. To each their own.
I wouldn't do it in that order personally... there is a better combo that lets you experience things for longer and gives it a more party party feel. The way you've got that planned, it could take away a bit of the strength of the lsd experience and the lsd would make it quite a bit more mellow... with this method... you get the fun times with solo mdma, then the acid and 2c-b carry the roll into a combo experience, taking the roll on throughout the whole thing... being more present than your average LSD experience, but still able to go off on some awesome LSD spirals :sunny: t0 - 100-150mg mdma t+3 - 400ug lsd t+3 - 50mg 2c-b It's party party party mode :sunny: Having only tripped one week earlier, my tolerance wasn't down to baseline - plus I like heavier effects - you may wish to adjust doses to you. I had absolutely no body load from this combo, I've taken 2c-b about 8 times now I think and this was the only one with completely 0 body load... i know how unusual that sounds for the dose level but the other person dosing with me reported the same.
Well when you got Alice and Madam since you a flipper go with those save nexus for later. AND HONEY flipping man i laughed so hard im still laughing lol are there more flips you know
you should try 2cb alone first. and if your try 20 mg the day after candyflipping, it's going to be weak. here's my TR for 2cb + LSD. i like a higher dose of 2cb, so the 19 mg didn't add all that much to the acid, but it was still quite strong. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=441133&f=126
-candyflip= LSD + MDMA -hippieflip= Mushrooms + MDMA -Nexus/honey flip= 2cb + MDMA -Love/Flower flip= Mescaline + MDMA -Sparkle Flip= 2ce + MDMA -Kitty Flip= Ketamine + MDMA -Elephant flip= PCP + MDMA -Robo flip= Dxm + MDMA -Gamma flip= Ghb + MDMA - Aces flip = 4-aco-DMT + MDMA (I think I kinda made that up) -Jedi Flip= Mushrooms + LSD + MDMA Edit: Time Flip =DMT + MDMA
Thanks for the list! I would leave mdma out of the picture and just do lsd and 2cb. Beautiful, beautiful experience.
I missed the part about it being at UMF.. molly does give you that extra energy so you can dance hours and hours on end.