Anal Sex with Multiple Partners Health Q

Hello - First Post here. Good finding these boards.

I had a sexual health question that I can't find an answer to so thought I would post here. I am a male with a female partner who enjoys anal sex, which we do frequently, and are comfortable not using protection. We have on one occasion had another female partner join us, who also enjoys anal sex, and she was also comfortable being together with us without protection, except for the act of going directly from one ass to another, which she didn't allow without washing first (eventhough there was nothing visibly dirty).
Through research (and common sense) I know that you should never go from anal to vaginal because you are spreading bacteria, and I've read that during group sex you should change the condom when switching partners, but in our case when we are comfortable not using condoms, I haven't found any advice on this.

Clearly I do not want anyone to get ill, but I am questioning whether there are specific risks from going from one woman's ass directly to another? Doesn't seem to be anything additionally risky about this, and it really does interrupt things having to stop, so seeking some advice here. Anything would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

In my experience it makes no difference whether you go from ass-to-ass or ass-to-pussy, or reverse, or any other combination. If you were really concerned about it you could have one of the girls suck your cock each time before you went to a different hole. But there's no need to wash off or wipe yourself clean each time you switch partners or orifices. IMO these are just sexual "myths" about what you should and shouldn't do. I've been doing these things for years and I never follow those crazy protocols.

 

Anal sex itself is a conduit for transmitting diseases, of course. So logic would tell you that going from one ass to another is a viable way to spread disease. If one partner's infected with something, such as HIV or Hepatitis, then it is possible to spread from one to the other, even if you use a single condom. That's why the recommendation to use a different condom with each partner.

Now, if you're convinced they're both disease-free, then the risk is of course non-existent (assuming you're correct). You're not going to pass anything that will make the other one sick, though, in such cases (e.g., you can't pass e. coli from one person to another, etc.).

Having been in the situation before on a few occasions, I don't recall anyone having swapped out condoms, either. *shrug*

 

Hey, Thanks. @xxaru Yeah, I don't know whats a myth and whats not, but theres def a lot out there. To me though, seems that it is common sense that someone could get sick from ass to mouth, ass to vag, etc. because you are introducing new bacteria or whatever. Ass to Ass though, I don't really see the issue, and was surprised at her reaction.

@GBBlondie - I guess thats the crux of my question, assuming everyone is disease free, or at least accepting the risks of doing everything without a condom, is there any additional risk here from going to ass to ass, than opposed to vag to vag, or mouth to mouth?

 

If they're both disease free, there's no risk of anything serious happening.

As for ass to vag, the big concern there is twofold. First, there's a risk of acquiring a UTI from fecal matter getting into the urethra. Second, the vagina has its own bacterial stasis going on, and if you introduce fecal matter into that environment, you risk creating some issues for the owner of said vagina.

As for ass to mouth, though there probably is a risk of getting a stomach ache, there is no risk of acquiring an infection that way (again, assuming everyone's clean). The saliva and digestive tract both actually act to counter any disease or germy things that enter that way, and unless they're overloaded, that's gonna kill any small amount of bacteria that might enter that way.

 

Thanks GBBlondie. I believe you're correct on ATM and Ass to Vag. Makes total sense. Appreciate your view on Ass to Ass, ie. you're not going to spread e.coli that way, etc. or introduce bacteria into a new environment where its not supposed to be.

I totally understand her being concerned about her health, and it was her first time with both of us (those two have been together before), so maybe it was nerves, etc. but I was kind of put off with her stopping because of just that, even after the 'ground rules' were set. Oh well, me being a selfish guy i guess...:devil:

 

Life is a risk, if in the throes of passion you do ass to vag mouth ear nose throat, so what, its like crossing the road or the gamble with unsafe sex, ultimately its down to individuals, my ex fuck buddy and i did all off the above for years and never got so much as a gut ache...i'd fuck her ass, then fuck her vag, cum then i'd go down on her and rim her.....

 

May not be that much of a risk seeker, but yeah, life is a risk anyway you put it.

 

penile penetration of an anus without a condom is high risk if one of the partners is infected with a sexually transmitted disease

I think there is almost always a little bit of blood present from small tears in the anus. your semen and her blood make it possible to transmit an std

if both you and your regular partner are monogamous and disease free, then you are not at risk for transmitting an std like HIV

unless your additional occasional partner only has sex with you (which I doubt) there is some risk that she is infected. in principle, if you had a group of partners that were all disease free, there would be no risk of transmitting an std. in practice, it would be difficult to guarantee that every member of the group was disease free and not having an partners outside of the group

it would be a good idea for both you and your partner to get tested for HIV, imo. it can take up to 6 months since your last high-risk encounter for positive test results to show up, but most people will accurately test positive in about 30 days

if you're going to do unprotected anal (which I don't recommend), it might be best to do that just with your regular partner. if you are both disease free, you're not a risk for transmitting.

if you're going to have an additional partner, then it would be a good idea to use a condom when you have sex with her, especially if you do anal with her

putting on a rubber doesn't take a lot of time, and could spare you and your partner from tremendous suffering

hope that everyone is disease free!

 

Thanks for the input. We all get tested 4 or 5 times a year, and I usually get a PCR/DNA test done, not an antibody test. Those two have been partners for about a year, and there hasn't been any issues, so I am confident we are all clean, and we're all comfortable not using condoms, even for anal, which yes, is riskier.

In the absence of any diseases, would you agree that going from one ass to the other is harmless, or do you think there is still risk there?

 

honestly, it would be better to ask a doctor. someone at an std clinic is going to know the low down

 

haha, yes. Well, just need to present my Hip Forums findings to prove that ass to ass is not any more risky for her than anything else that we've done.

 

I actually taught sex education/technique clinics to women for over a year while I was in college. :sunny:

 

Excellent, so Ass to Ass it is? Haha. I actually don't want to have someone do something theyre not comfortable with, but I was actually put off by her stopping because of this especially because I don't think its a big thing at all in the realm of the stuff we had already done. I guess thats my main point. Is that understandable?

 

and my guess is that you have a pretty good understanding of std's. I passed an exam to become a sexual information counselor, though I never became one.

there's quite a few things that I didn't (and still don't) know about std's though, and my guess is that there are some things that you might not know either. asking a doctor probably wouldn't hurt.

my guess is that you will still be able to pass other bacterial and viral infections to one another, but these would probably be mild

it's good that you're getting tested, but this is only letting you know if you've got, it's not protecting you from getting it.

wearing a rubber when you have sex with the secondary partner doesn't seem like such a big deal to me

 

Considering that part of my classes was written by a doctor and approved by the medical board that oversaw the program, I'm gonna believe that "asking a doctor" was fulfilled by all of that.

I don't think anyone's asserted that it does. Did I miss something?

I think the secondary partner is the one who makes that call, not two people talking about them on the Interwebs.

 

that's awesome. you're still not an md though.

I don't think anyone asserted otherwise. Did I miss something?

though it seems that the one who is worried is the primary partner

 

Really appreciate the responses. On the frequent testing, I get those just to know, not to prevent anything...Thats true, but I was answering whether we were clean, so I think that somewhat ensures that we are.

We had the typical 'ground rules' conversation before, because it was the first time that I joined those two and she joined us, and the 'secondary' partner was ok with no condom, oral, vag, anal etc. She was ok with mouth to mouth, and vag to vag...but ass to ass she stopped it. I am the 'primary' partner, well me and my gf are in this case, but we were both ok with it, and my gf was fine with ass to ass back into her own, so it was just that one situation. Not a huge deal, nothing to get worked up over, but I still am hoping for agreement that the 'secondary' partner was worried unnecessarily?

 

youre sharing the same flora over time, and then it makes no difference .. at the beginning of your encounters with a new STD FREE partner. you may come down with a cold like symptom. this from the bacteria jumping from one body to another. Other than that, simple cleaning practices will keep you all fine.

^ this.. Often times in porn, you may see bareback and condom anal in the same film. This is because one is the trusted partner , the other is not.

 

Never thought this would get down to Bacterial Flora...haha, but makes sense.