another thread about war and the army

ok here goes, i am strating to think about my future, and i was thinking about a career in the army, i might have to kill and eat meat for survival traing and survival but most the time i'll be able to live vegetarian, like i am now.
what would you have done about suddam hussein, let him carry on killing torturing etc, because that definately is not the hip way? what would you have done please reply.

In the army you learn lots of stuff for life and i could have a job as doctor or anything rather than soldier.

thanks

 

If you join the army, yes there's a good chance you'll have to kill or at least shoot someone. Is that the hip way? Remember, the army is the tool of the government (or THE MAN).
Even if you become an army medic, there's still a fairly large probability you'll see front-line action. Medics aren't exempt from all the dirty duties, they just have extra ones (I know cause an acquaintance of mine is an army medic). Yes, they will teach you skills, but you could do that without them. You don't NEED the army, you don't need to become a tool of the Amerikan Pig government just to learn a few skills that you may or may not use when you come out.
I agree that Saddam Hussein was a right evil fucker, but inventing spurious reasons to invade another country ("Saddam has weapons of mass destruction") isn't right AT ALL.
Personally, I wouldn't join the army if you paid me a million pounds a second.

 

btw i'm english and i do see your point, but you havent answered my question what would you do if you were in charge about suddam
and iran thretning isreal off the map i cant really see peaceful protests doing to much

 

Hussein definitley needed to be stopped by someone, but it should not have been America. It is up to the people who live in the reigon to organize and decide on their own a course of action.

We started a war that has killed many Iraqi cilivilans and our selfless soldiers. That helps no one. It has cost SO MUCH MONEY, and that money could have gone to our schools, to hungry people of the United States, to environmental causes, to something that actually does good rather than harm.

America has caused more problems for Iraq and at home than solved them. There was no threat to America from Iraq and therefore their country should have been left alone.

 

I, myself, am soon to join the British Army; next year, in fact, after I have my dental brace removed. Here's some advice: don't let anything push you into the Army or try and sway your decision either way. Obviously you would be taught to fight, and as a soldier that's your purpose. You're built into a fighting machine.

However, don't be naive with advice from the naive. In other words, don't listen to half-arsed attempts to sway your decision with advice like "you have to kill people!". Even if that is true, it isn't constuctive in any way.

Don't ask people if they think you should go into the Army. Ask yourself and REALLY think about it.

 

The war was justified in the beggining and no one can atrgue that sudam being caught was bad. He had to be stopped weather he was a threat to us or not. The problem was'nt the war plan it was the post-war plan. There was none.

 

Personally, I think the best countries should be seen and not heard. They should allow themselves to tread the middle of the path, focusing on domestic needs, and assisting neighbors, if necessary... instead of teaming up on single countries and inducing something somewhat of a drunken barfight brawl.

Personally, I feel the states should have stuck to building refridgerators.

But that's just me.

 

At one time, the people who are over there in the Middle East (and other places), serving in the military and in other capacities, were kids like you, doing the things all kids do, thinking the same thoughts as you are, wondering the same things you are. Throughout man's existence this same scenario has been played out time and time again. The people over there now have chosen with their lives (both the living and expecially the dead) how to answer those questions. History has recorded other generations answer to those same questions. Older people of England, especially, know this. I, for one, am grateful beyond words for their decisions and for how they answered. The world is far better off because peoples of many nationalities, and nations who understand some things far beyond rhetoric, have answered the way they have. History has proven them right. No one despises war more than the warrior, and if you decide to enlist, you join a cadre of people who know better the answers to your questions and have lived good lives afterward. The other posters on this thread need to walk a mile before they give an opinion.

 

Most people's attitudes here make me sick.

 

When considering whether to join the military, its important to remember that recruiters lie. Ask any soldier and they'll tell you that recruiters lie.

Keep that in mind when deciding whether to join. The promises of recuiters can not be trusted.

 

k thanks all i'll keep that as a i'll keep looking around and i'll speak to as many soldies and ex-soldiers as i can

 

Innocent lives will be lost at war. Fact.

 

haha this is so TRUE! ok, this air force recruter came to my high school and told us that we would never have to fly a plain, that we would just live on base and get paid $300 a week for doing so. ITS THE FRICKIN' AIRFORCE!!!! of course you fly! thats what puts the 'air' into 'airforce'! they think the public is stupid.
ive been harrassed by recruters too, and that just makes me hate the army (not the soldiers, settle down) even more.

 

how could you allow a mad man tyrant to murder innocent people?

but how could you invade a country, and murder innocent people, just to get to one mad man?

quote from italian hippy the first was permanent the second is only temporary (well maybe a couple (few) years but still temporary

 

That's pretty much EXACTLY what I would say. I think that for problems like this, there should be a special army, that includes people from all countries, instead of the USA acting like the world's big brother. I think it should just be like the U.N.'s army or something. So that the problem get solved, and this country can still focus on things domestically. Because that's what we really need right now.

 

The thing about being in the miltary, is that what to do about Saddam is not your problem. You will do what you are told to.

 

The military is an honorable career choice.
You said that you're English, so I don't know how the military works there.
My boyfriend was in the Army here (USA) and was happy with it. There is bullshit that comes with it, but the bullshit comes with every job.
Recruiters will bend the truth, but with all the people I know who are in the military...both my parents, my boyfriend, 6 of my cousins, the biggest amount of my friends, they've never been LIED to. I'm thinking about looking into joining up after my daughter turns 1 year old. But, I'll only join if I'm thinking about making a career out of it.
Don't let what's "Hip" keep you from making this decision. This is your life, and you can choose to be in the military or not be in the military.

 

Any person thinking about enlisting in the US armed forces should read this:

http://www.quakerhouse.org/counter-recruiting-01.htm

Its from a site run by the Quakers.

 

You, my dear, are officially a retard and know nothing about the Forces...What so ever. For God's sake, you can be a fricking chef; a sniper; a Radio systems operater, et cetera, in the Airforce, and you may never fly a plane (it's spelt "plane", not "plain"). There are hundreds of jobs available in the Forces.

Listen to Moon_Flower, she's not stupid.

 

My grandfather was in the Korean War. He was a ship's cook...

My dad was a pilot/basket operator/turbine mechanic in the coast guard...

Then again, half of the family on my dad's side decided to die at Appomattox in 1865...