hey anyone with a really nice job trip here? I mean a job that pays over 50,000 a year. C.E.Os engineers bussness owners ect.
dmt is called the businessman's trip, but just because it doesn't last too long. interesting question though. Studies have shown that after you make like 20,000 a year or so you don't really get any happier from making more, so why bother? also, "man loves that for which he labors, and labors for that which he loves." Few people end up loving corporations after they've experienced post-terrestrial consciousness.
yeah dmt was really big with japanese buisnessmen...they would have like fifteen to twenty minute breaks at lunch, so they would get their bubblers or bongs and dmt go to the limo and fucking blast off into the netherworlds. they would come down and go back to their corperate jobs like nothing just fucking happened.
I make around that, and I'm a software project manager, and I trip... Not a CEO, though I doubt many CEOs make 50k
a lot of intelligent people trip. thats why it would surprise me if there was noone in the corporate world tripping. x x x
Number 1 is the news media, but naturally don't belive everything you hear. The other reason is because everyone I've talked to that tripped and was like 25+ was always in the low paying jobs and struggling to make rent ect. I'm curious to know more about people who have good jobs and still trip. Mostly cause i stumbled into a higher paying job (about 30k a year) and wondering if i have to give everything up, or just use less and be more careful. I already know weed is out of the picture forever, due to the long detecting period.
I know a lot of people who trip and aren't plebeians. The one trend I've noticed is that most of them have been entrepreneurs of some type. My girlfriend's stepmother is some fancy yuppy who trips, so every year or so she flies to Peru and takes ayahuasca.
the first people to even trip were a selective group of physciatrist and scientist and smarties like that. only the intelligent used to be able to trip. that is on acid i mean.
ya man drugs have often been of the intelligent class, if not the corporate world. LSD was spread through scientists and proffesors. MDMA was spread through psychologists. cannabis use by white people was spread by the Beat Poets, as they got people intersted in DMT.
not a corporate businessperson, but a good example of a well-rounded, intelligent, and successful modern person with an extensive knowledge of psychedelics and personal experience using and administering psychedelics would be dr. rick strassman, author of the book DMT: The Spirit Molecule as well as other literature and studies. another such successful and well known individual would be Dr. Alexander Shulgin, one of the most influential psychedelic chemists of all time. Dr. Andrew Weil is an advocate of responsible use when handling any drugs at all, an expert regarding psilocybian mushrooms, a mushroom enthusiast even, author of many drug-related books as well as books on general health and wellness, healthy eating habits, and drug abuse. bob wallace was a pioneer in computer software, founder of quicksoft and before that the ninth member of microsoft. he later went on to be involved in some capacity (often financially) with organizations such as MAPS, erowid, dancesafe, and the Center for Cognitive Liberty and Ethics. there are many less well known successful people in a very wide variety of occupations who use psychedelics or have extensive past experiences with them. most of these people don't go around discussing or advocating pschedelics to the general public, however, as many are of a similar opinion as me: psychedelics aren't for everybody. while many people CAN benefit from use of psychedelics, many, if not most, people cannot. as much as many people believe their use for spiritual or scientific exploration should be legalized, it is often easier, safer, and no less meaningful to carry on underground use of psychedelics among the intelligent and, sometimes, proseperous or otherwise highly successful people. you have doctors, scientists, musicians, lawyers, members of academia, actors, bussinesspeople, and even public servants who use psychedelics or used them extensively in the past and still are sympathetic to the psychedelic movement in some form. the psychedelic movement is increasingly split up into different schools, and you're finding some very mature and intelligent communities of people with differing ideas of how to interpret and utilize the psychedelic experience. its not just a bunch of people who get "fucked up" all the time. many psychedelic users are not the same people who pop pills, snort coke, do whippets, amphetamines, drink regularly, and so on. many dont even smoke marijuana. many are successful businesspeople or other successful businesspeople, just like there are many successful users of cannabis. all sorts of people use all sorts of drugs, and there is no direct link between success in the workplace and use of psychedelics. you just have some people who are "successful," which varies a lot depending on personal values, and some people who are "not successful." some of the successful ones use psychedelics, some do not. if you're on a "hippy" forum, however, you're less likely to find corporate business people, public servants, and proffessors and doctors who use psychedelics. you're more likely to find people like that elsewhere.
I read this (old) article on Wired today and it reminded me of this thread. I'm sure it will interest some of you: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/01/70015
if my dad gets this job hell make $100,000 a year. and hell most likely get it because he has WAY more experience with this field of work than the other appliers, and has worked with the brother of the employer for a while now. and id get to live with him in Kauai away from the worst of my bigot siblings.