Are you for or against circumcision? (inspired by another thread)

We decided NOT to circumcise our son.

Didn't think there were enough benefits to allow such a procedure within days of his birth.

Seemed barbaric.

He's a month old now.

 

Oh, man. The feelings on this are SO strong.

I agree with you, Shane. Our dh (now 12) is not circed, we looked into it, (actually with our first two, who turned out to be girls, but I needed to know about the procedure ahead of time) and decided not to cut off 2/3 of the skin of his penis for no apparent reason. The American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't think it is neccesary, neither does most of Europe, and even in the USA, only about 65% of boys are still cut up. The % is even lower in areas like California.

Seamonster, you and I have been getting along well lately, so I almost hesitate to get into this discussion again, as we disagree so vehemently on this issue with each other. We have to agree to disagree.

But I do feel the procedure is a form of genital mutilation, and had quite a battle with my dh when we suspected Lennon was going to be a boy. Got some photos of a real circ and a video from a group called "Nurses Against Circ" and MADE him watch it. He tried to leave, made excuses, but couldn't argue with the horror of the procedure, the pain, the complucation rate, the complete unneccesary nature of it ect.

My dh was SO unknowlegable. When I was pregnant for the first time, (and we didn't know if it was a boy or a girl) we discussed it and he actually said, "Well, let's wait until he is born and see if he has one. I don't even know if I had one." If it wasn't so sad I would have laughed, he actually didn't KNOW all men have foreskins. I guess "some of the guys in the locker room had them and some didn't." So he thought it was a normal variation. OF COURSE he had one! His circ was severe, not a bit of tissue left. I guess that led him to beleieve he may have not had a foreskin, but what I am getting at is this is often the mindset of people who havn't done their homework. A total lack of knowlege of even their own anatomy. He also came from a family who NEVER investigates anything. I am VERY different (as he has learned in the last 25 years!) Not all pro circ people are like this, but many I have run into (including my own mother, who thinks Lennon will somehow be blighted with some awful penile affliction in the near future) are.

Shane, I can get you some websites, if you want. There is a group called NOCIRC who do a lot of circ education.

As for the "locker room" and being teased. My son said it best, when I once asked him if there were comments about the non circed boys. "Ma, commenting on, much less STARING at, some other guy's dick is NOT cool. No one says a thing! They would think you are a weirdo if you said something." NO teasing at all. He estimates a little less than half of the guys in his school are not circed.

 

I've been against it since I saw pictures of the procedure when I was 12.

It took 9months to convince Miranda that Tyler didn't need circumsized.

After the pediatrician in the maternity wing told her it was basically a matter of preference she agreed that we shouldn't do it.

 

Well, I'm not a mom, but circumcision always seemed a little weird to me. Evolution would not have favored foreskin on human males if it did not serve some sort of purpose, and it certainly wouldn't have favored it if it was harmful to the human male. Research now shows that there is no valid medical reason for a baby boy to have his foreskin cut off, and plus it just seems mean. This kid just went through the ordeal of being born and you're going to cut up his penis? For no good reason?

Plus, uncut men make better lovers (*wink wink*)

 

My son can get circumsized if he wants to when he's older.


I doubt he will.

lol.

 

I don't have a son, but Tim and I both agree that if we ever do, not to circ.


A woman in one of my classes tried to tell the class that it is "scientifically proven" that newborns don't feel pain. I didn't feel like having a debate about because it was "scientifically proven", so I just ignored her. It's hard to argue with ignorant people.

 

I'm FOR circumcision. Us men gotta stay attractive for ladies.

 

I say do it. It's natural. It's common. And less chance of health problems.

 

I totally agree Bug, I've never regretted it....and neither have any of the ladies on either side of the Atlantic

 

Thanks for the insight re: the overseas ladies. My experience only lies within the U.S. I'm glad to know they like the tight cock over there as well!

 

If only I knew how they felt about them across the Pacific *sigh*

In California they like them too...and the Pacific Northwest, those are for sure Here in the eastern midwest they seem to like them...but they may like any/all around here...how about the mid-midwest?

 

Wisconsin only likes them circumcised and well trimmed.

 

"its natural"

Please share with me your definition of natural.

So so far the arguments we have for circumcision are:

Pro:
- It looks good for the ladies
- Its natural (although I'm at a loss for how)
- It's common, everyone else does it, it must be ok.

Con:
- Seen the procedure, determined it unnecessary and cruel
- read scientific research which led to conclusion its a con

Freedom of choice:
- pretty simple, let the kid choose when he's old enough.

 

Well ain't that a fucking diplomatic solution to it all. Whoopee freaking doo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I'm opposed. Adult men have reported a significant decrease in sexual pleasure after having it removed. Why you would want to decrease your child's sexual feeling before they're even old enough to know what it is? How is that even fair? Cutting off a part of a newborn baby's body for vanity purposes is just plain sick. If you didn't like your newborn baby's nose, would you give them a nose job when they were only days old? Please. And Bug Man, you NEVER responded to the question of how circumcision is "natural".


And Blackie, for the record I'm against both male and female circumcision, although female circumcision I believe is a more pressing issue because it increases a woman's risk of birth complications, not to mention the fact that it prevents her from having an orgasm completely, whereas circumcised men can still have them. Female genital mutilation is also done without anesthesia at an older age where girls can become severely traumatized by it.

 

Yeah, I REALLY don't get how it's natural either.


Enlighten us, won't you, Bug Man?

 

VERY opposed to it.
None of my boys are circ'd.
I like an intact, natural, complete, all his parts in place man.

 

I am against it

 

I'm against it, too. I'm also against baptism. Hell, just wipe out freedom of religion as a whole.

 

I'm for it, because I am half Jewish and had a rabbi do it...frankly, if Jewish people do it, you know its best...no joke.