Are you one with me

When you hippies say "We're all one" "We're all connected" etc
do you mean just that we're all made of the same thing (the most elementary subatomic material), which i can buy.
or that you think living things are connected by a universal "spirit", which i dont.
just curious. because that kind of jargon is whored around so freely. i want to know what you mean.

 

I believe we're all one physically, and spiritually.

Technically, we're all made of the same little ions and atoms and spaces of air.

Spirtually, we are all the same essence. We were born not only of the same idea, but of the same being. Everything in the universe shares that, or at least everything on this Earth.

 

The idea of spirituality has quickly been put in the catagory of supernatural rather than super natural. dont worry so much. there is no punishment for thinking unless that thinking lead to any pain or discomfort to others. the minute that the idea of supernatural takes one to a point of pain and disruption, it has strayed away from the original thought. Just remember that you worry about other people and what will cause problems between them. Which means that you care. Caring about others is a wonderful thing. You beautiful.

 

Put it this way; the awareness or conciousness that is you and looks through your eyes and is witness to every thing you experience, is the same awareness or conciousness that looks through my eyes and is witness to every thing i experience.
Conciousness is universal and one and it is what you are.

 

My joy is your joy. Your pain is my pain. When we are in good health, happiness, we amplify energies and do great things. A starving people in Africa affect me in the U.S. We breathe out CO2, plants breathe out what we need. Life is one giant symphony.

 

I agree.

But to create a deabte with the purpose to to create ideas, some lifeforms look at others as taking air from them. Or as destroying plant life which creates a link in that symbiotic relationship...

 

Yah, I believe there's both the physical and spiritual meaning behind that saying. Spiritually I believe that we all descend from the Common Ancestor, and that all life is in search of truth. Most cultures haven't cultivated a culture centered around mind, body, and perfect health, and so we are still battling with very primal pleasures of the body. We would rather eat some greasy Cheetos than feel the bliss of a perfect mind and body. We still hate instead of love.

Physically, we are all interdependent, and you separateness ends where you let your ego stop. Some only worry about money, this lifetime, and their pleasure, while others worry about the biosphere and the generations to come. We will clear the oceans of fish, desert the land, pollute the sky and water, and be living in a thermonuclear wasteland. Then people will wake up one day and learn the lessons of living in balance.

 

The uni verse in one thing.
Life is one phenomenon.
All the little bits are interconnected (some more than others perhaps) and have to work together, or the whole edifice will fuck up.
This is true on many levels.
Just like the body is one thing (a microcosm perhaps) and the cells are all connected and have to work together.

If there are any people left.

 

Does that mean there is something predetermined, like you believe in fate? What is it that gets fucked up?
To me, if a piece leaves, yes it causes waves, but whatever changes arise become the current state. The changes are infinite, whether random or products of a cause, as individual pieces react with each other, the reality reflects all the changes happening.

 

Not sure what you're getting at here. I don't think things are necessarily pre-determined. The fact that the universe is one thing wouldn't really suggest that. The little pieces all have some relative freedom.

A piece can't 'leave' - there's nowhere to go.

 

No - not anything like clockwork.

I think the idea that all is physically one is covered by the statement that the universe is one thing.

 

Basically what most Hippies mean when they say; "We're all one" "We're all connected" etc. is that they've taken LSD. Although not everyone experiences it most who have taken Acid for any length of time will experience a sensation that most Hippies call; feeling one with the Universe. Once felt, you tend to use phrases like "We're all one" "We're all connected" etc. although all these phrases beggar to describe what has actually been felt. As to whether what was felt is real or not, who can say, although the feeling itself is very real. So if you’re talking to an older Hippy and he says one of those phrases you can pretty much assume he’s taken Acid and is just passing along what he’s felt the best way he can.

PS This is not endorsement of taking LSD but a description of what happened in the 60s. LSD is not a toy and should be used only under the supervision of a burnt out old Hippy.

 

I don't believe you read what he wrote, BBB!

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Hi Darrell, haven't seen you around lately, have you been meditating again?

 

good words...

 

I read it - and just re-read it to check I hadn't misread it. Maybe I misunderstood it? I don't think so..but it's possible.
But what makes you say that?

I mean, it isn't like I was disagreeing...

 

Perhaps it was me reading it incorrectly. To me, it looked like you were disagreeing with (what it looked like you thought) Meagain was saying. For instance:

... as if you were reading it as ...

I guess I misunderstood. I think what made me think you were disagreeing was when you started off by saying, "no", as if what Meagain had said was not correct.

Then if I had misunderstood, I suppose I should appologize for seeing it this way and making a comment to this.

Sorry for going off-topic here folks ... !!!

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Probably it's me not expressing myself very clearly.

 

Everthing is consciousness therfore all is one.