At last science is recognising religion

This paper is the start to recovery
http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/talk.atheism/msg13651.html

 

LMAO, that's fuckin awesome.

 

Gay.
Schizo's also tend to believe they are followed by government agents.
This goes to show that believing you have a government is an indicator of a mental problem?
No.
So the whole thing here is pretty lame alright.

 

ha ha ha oh hello you used to post under a different name here didnt you - yeah I recognise the style cant think of the name - anyway how you doing -

ha ha ha - christians are schizos thats the fact - and now the world is divided in two - schizos v's realists

religion against reason - just as it always was

bspthhhhhwah hahahahahahahahaha aha ha ha ha ha

 

Sentient - What do you believe in? Where do you think you came from? Where do you think you go when you die?

 

NO

At last science is recognising ' a high direction may exist'
That has has nothing to do with religion.

Religion is no more than goverment...an earthly thing.
Has nothing to do with 'god'
It's a prepacked belief system. For the stupid
Like in the supermarket 30 different cleaning products all do the
same thing.
there are hundreds of religions. all do the same thing.
And do it innefectually
absolve YOU from thinking.
just pick the brand you like.


Occam

 

The original sin is to confuse naming with explaining-to mistake concepts for theories.

 

Meh...when used against Christian experience, the only value this has is in showing a textbook example of begging the question:

Christians experiences are delusional, so I can't believe their accounts of experiencing God, because Christian experiences are delusional.

 

Yes, ik. This is a homosexual study. It is attracted to other studies of the same gender. How old are you?

There are a number of studies correlating schitzotypal personalities with religion. Is it really that hard to accept? And did you know...that most people first take interest in religion when the whole santa claus/tooth fairy thing falls through?

And Jatom, I don't think the example you gave really begs the question. It just states a reason twice in one sentence. Christian experiences are delusional, so I can't believe their accounts of experiencing god. I can't believe their accounts of experiencing god, because christian experiences are delusional. It's just two ways of saying the same thing. Not circular reasoning or anything.
Incidentally, I had to google "begging the question" to make sure I was thinking the right thing, and this is the first example I saw: We know God exists because we can see the perfect order of His Creation, an order which demonstrates supernatural intelligence in its design.

 

FreakerSoup, the basis for believing that Christian experiences are delusional is that they are delusional. That begs the question. If you don't think so, ask yourself this: How does this article (or piece of article) show that Christian experiences are in fact delusional? It doesn't. It only shows certain similarities between them and delusional cases (which is debatable), which leaves us where? Well, that there maybe certain similarities. But that's completely uninteresting for anyone who really wants to know the fact of the matter.

Suppose Christian experiences are not delusional, where does that leave us? We're still left with the biographical claim that certain Christian experiences mirror delusional cases. It's not until one assumes that these cases are delusion that he can go on to say that they are delusional, and that is question-begging.

I might as well say that my reason for not believing this article is:

Christian experiences are not delusional, therefore this article is bogus, because Christian experiences are not delusional.

Or what about this:

Non-Christians are controlled by sin to such an extent that it effects their noetic faculties and they are unable to know that the position they hold is false.

Well, that's good enough for me, non-Christians must all hold false positions.

Exactly, now you should see why my example from the last post begs the question.